Not a good night for New Haven PD..

[Sleepy Doc]

We lost one LEO last night and another is critically injured from a mulit-vehicle crash.

http://nhregister.com/articles/2008/09/ ... 132794.txt

If, and I do mean IF, the second officer survives it will be a miracle, and she will never be the same.. or on the job again.

I wasn't at the crash, but I heard the radio traffic and talked to one of the crews. Apparently, it was most un-bueno and that is all I will say about that here. You would have thought the president was in the ER from all the police and security.

Two great officers. I've worked with both extensively and their absence will be felt for a very long time.

For the record, the guy who transported the first officer was a 25 year old brand new paramedic. One of the FOGs said he worked him up like it was his own father and you would never know he was new at it. There was nothing that could be done.




Sometimes this job just sucks.

[Silverback]

While en route to a domestic call in Fair Haven at about 11:30 p.m., the patrol cars collided at Chapel and East streets. Both cruisers were said to have had lights and sirens activated at the time of the crash.


WTF?

[Sleepy Doc]

While en route to a domestic call in Fair Haven at about 11:30 p.m., the patrol cars collided at Chapel and East streets. Both cruisers were said to have had lights and sirens activated at the time of the crash.


WTF?

Don't know. I wasn't at the scene. From what I understand the were coming from two different directions. I know there is a blind hill there.

[Silverback]

While en route to a domestic call in Fair Haven at about 11:30 p.m., the patrol cars collided at Chapel and East streets. Both cruisers were said to have had lights and sirens activated at the time of the crash.


WTF?

Don't know. I wasn't at the scene. From what I understand the were coming from two different directions. I know there is a blind hill there.

That doesn't sound good at all...I wonder if the call was worth two lives?

[swagger]

While en route to a domestic call in Fair Haven at about 11:30 p.m., the patrol cars collided at Chapel and East streets. Both cruisers were said to have had lights and sirens activated at the time of the crash.


WTF?

It's a condition called washout, happens when you don't see the other's lights because you think it's yours and the same for the sirens. happens alot at intersections. become a huge deal in my department because of tragedies like this.

Sorry for loss Doc. The officers are in my prayers.

[Silverback]

While en route to a domestic call in Fair Haven at about 11:30 p.m., the patrol cars collided at Chapel and East streets. Both cruisers were said to have had lights and sirens activated at the time of the crash.


WTF?

It's a condition called washout, happens when you don't see the other's lights because you think it's yours and the same for the sirens. happens alot at intersections. become a huge deal in my department because of tragedies like this.

Thanks for the insight...Now that I think about it, it is probably pretty hectic rolling with lights and siren...

[Sleepy Doc]

It's a condition called washout, happens when you don't see the other's lights because you think it's yours and the same for the sirens. happens alot at intersections.

Knowing the intersection in question, I'd bet my next paycheck that was the cause..

Now that I think about it, it is probably pretty hectic rolling with lights and siren...

You can't imagine how little people give a shit and ignore you, especially in this neighborhood..

I wonder if the call was worth two lives?

I can only hope. I know the female officer better, and she was the rock of Gibraltar... unflappable. She wouldn't have done anything risky unless she felt it was worth it.

[deleon275]

We're they responding to the same call?

LAPD changed it's Code-3 run (lights and sirens) operations after the infamous 5th and Wall accident.

Two units responding Code-3 to the same call. Only one is allowed to respond Code-3. They T-boned at the intersection and the only survivor was the boot wearing his seatbelt.

Now anytime someone goes Code-3 the RTO has to broadcast where they're starting location is. You get burned hardcore if you're caught responding such if another unit already is.

Unless it's an officer needs help call, I don't even drive past 50 mph running Code-3. TC's are one of our biggest enemies.

[edisapimp]

Sorry for the loss, Doc.

[Silverback]

We're they responding to the same call?

LAPD changed it's Code-3 run (lights and sirens) operations after the infamous 5th and Wall accident.

Two units responding Code-3 to the same call. Only one is allowed to respond Code-3. They T-boned at the intersection and the only survivor was the boot wearing his seatbelt.

Now anytime someone goes Code-3 the RTO has to broadcast where they're starting location is. You get burned hardcore if you're caught responding such if another unit already is.

Unless it's an officer needs help call, I don't even drive past 50 mph running Code-3. TC's are one of our biggest enemies.

Great information...it surprising how little the average Joe (me) knows about police work. Thanks

[Chiron]

We're they responding to the same call?

LAPD changed it's Code-3 run (lights and sirens) operations after the infamous 5th and Wall accident.

Two units responding Code-3 to the same call. Only one is allowed to respond Code-3. They T-boned at the intersection and the only survivor was the boot wearing his seatbelt.

Now anytime someone goes Code-3 the RTO has to broadcast where they're starting location is. You get burned hardcore if you're caught responding such if another unit already is.

Unless it's an officer needs help call, I don't even drive past 50 mph running Code-3. TC's are one of our biggest enemies.

Great information...it surprising how little the average Joe (me) knows about police work. Thanks

Same here. Prayers out bro.

[cams]

That blows man. Sorry to hear. We just had one of our paddy wagons go down 3 nights ago with 2 rookies in it. Car t-boned them going code to a shots fired call. Totaled. No serious injuries thankfully but out of work for several months each, which means no details, which means no money. They'll be financially ruined for months to come without overtime and details to make ends meet.

Certainly not to take away from the tragic death and injuries of these officers, I've been to more police funerals than I care to remember, just saying for those that don't know all that much like SB stated, even responding to an everyday call or conducting a "routine" traffic stop for say a red light violation, can turn deadly in the blink of an eye.

I turned this into a rambling post, I apologize, just next time you want to call a cop a pig, or give him/her shit for writing you a ticket, think about it first. There's so much you may not understand and the officer on scene doesn't have the time to explain everything to you in detail.

Bless the fallen, the Thin Blue Line just got a little thinner.

[Sleepy Doc]

Thanks all,

These two LEOs weren't drinking buddies or anything, but I worked with them both extensively and they were great at there jobs. There absence on the streets will be felt.

It seems everyone in the public service community here is effected by it somehow. I just found out that my ex knew the female officer like family.

She prolly won't make it to the end of the week.

Like it says in the article, this will be 4 LEO funerals in less than the same number of years. Un-bueno

Ultimately, though, we go back to work and do it again because there are always people who need our help. SB mentioned in another thread that in the end, we all joined the military so our kids won't have to. I submit that people go into fire/police/emergency services for similar reasons.


I find some comfort in the scripture (which i am prolly butchering hopelessly.. sorry, j. Dowland..) that says "Man hath no greater love than he lay down his life for his brother.."