Single Set Weight Lifting Routine
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Single Set Weight Lifting Routine
I made a similar post just before the server change and it was lost.
My current routine is a traditional five-day split: Back, Chest, Legs/Abs, Arms and Shoulders – 6 or 7 seven exercises (focused on compounds) in each split and three sets of reps in the 8 to 10 range. When I can get 3 sets of 10 reps for an exercise, I add weight. There is a lot of information about one set of 10 to 12 reps to failure being just about as effective. Does anyone have any personal experience, or information from sources that are not trying to sell something, about the effectiveness of single set routines? With my seasoned FOG status, my goals are to maintain strength and muscle mass and to improve those as best I can. A single set routine would sure cut down on the amount of time for each workout.
Note to Cliv03: I am currently doing my chin-ups with 271/2 additional pounds.
My current routine is a traditional five-day split: Back, Chest, Legs/Abs, Arms and Shoulders – 6 or 7 seven exercises (focused on compounds) in each split and three sets of reps in the 8 to 10 range. When I can get 3 sets of 10 reps for an exercise, I add weight. There is a lot of information about one set of 10 to 12 reps to failure being just about as effective. Does anyone have any personal experience, or information from sources that are not trying to sell something, about the effectiveness of single set routines? With my seasoned FOG status, my goals are to maintain strength and muscle mass and to improve those as best I can. A single set routine would sure cut down on the amount of time for each workout.
Note to Cliv03: I am currently doing my chin-ups with 271/2 additional pounds.
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Re: Single Set Weight Lifting Routine
Ranger Bill wrote:I am currently doing my chin-ups with 271/2 additional pounds.
Are you using a weight vest or a squat belt with a plate attachment for those?
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Re: Single Set Weight Lifting Routine
I use a leather dip belt with a chain to attach plates.The Holmchicken wrote:Ranger Bill wrote:I am currently doing my chin-ups with 271/2 additional pounds.
Are you using a weight vest or a squat belt with a plate attachment for those?
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You already have some of my input on this subject. Its great you can still be physically active. The life span of an individual is greatly prolonged in active individuals as well as having an overall healthier life.
I guess your #1 goal is to maintain muscle mass and strength. Inactivity is the biggest cause of atrophy but in your case along with some of the other FOGs time is not on your side
Starting from age 25-50 10% of muscle mass is gone (muscle loss due to age is termed sarcopenia). From 50-80 years another 40% of muscle mass is gone. So by the time you are 80 years of age you are only half the size you were in your prime.
You also have to keep in mind that this is an average. And most people examined are not army rangers or avid muscle heads. Because it is also noted that a lot of it depends on what point you start at.
I will say that I am almost 30 years old and I am 225 pounds and my muscle mass is going up.
The reason I put this stat up is to make people aware that eventually this loss in muscle mass can not be stopped, it will happen eventually. So if you do feel yourself getting weaker over the years dont hurt yourself trying to stay at the same weight.
Another note is that aging does not impair your muscles (skeletal) ability to adapt to PT. So even if sarcopenia is unavoidable muscular endurance and to a point muscular strength is still possible.
I guess your #1 goal is to maintain muscle mass and strength. Inactivity is the biggest cause of atrophy but in your case along with some of the other FOGs time is not on your side

Starting from age 25-50 10% of muscle mass is gone (muscle loss due to age is termed sarcopenia). From 50-80 years another 40% of muscle mass is gone. So by the time you are 80 years of age you are only half the size you were in your prime.
You also have to keep in mind that this is an average. And most people examined are not army rangers or avid muscle heads. Because it is also noted that a lot of it depends on what point you start at.
I will say that I am almost 30 years old and I am 225 pounds and my muscle mass is going up.
The reason I put this stat up is to make people aware that eventually this loss in muscle mass can not be stopped, it will happen eventually. So if you do feel yourself getting weaker over the years dont hurt yourself trying to stay at the same weight.
Another note is that aging does not impair your muscles (skeletal) ability to adapt to PT. So even if sarcopenia is unavoidable muscular endurance and to a point muscular strength is still possible.
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Re: Single Set Weight Lifting Routine
Most of the weight training gurus out there are against going to failure except for when you test yourself. The belief is that training to failure is training for failure. In my experience one set doesn't work as well as two sets. The reason being that it takes at least one set just to grease the groove. There is a strength training program called PTP by Pavel Tsatouline where you do 2 sets of five reps. The first set is at 80-85% of your one rep maximum and the second you reduce your weight by 10%. The reasoning behind 5 reps as opposed to 10 is that you can maintain concentration better for 5 reps than for 10 reps making for a safer and more efficient workout. For more information on PTP go to dragondoor.com. They too try to sell books, videos, and kettle bells. Kettle bells are pretty awesome taring tools by the way. :?Ranger Bill wrote: There is a lot of information about one set of 10 to 12 reps to failure being just about as effective. Does anyone have any personal experience, or information from sources that are not trying to sell something, about the effectiveness of single set routines?
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Re: Single Set Weight Lifting Routine
Ranger Bill wrote:I use a leather dip belt with a chain to attach plates.The Holmchicken wrote:Ranger Bill wrote:I am currently doing my chin-ups with 271/2 additional pounds.
Are you using a weight vest or a squat belt with a plate attachment for those?
Weird question, but where did you find it? I've looked and I usually get the "dick growing out of the forehead" look when I ask.
Heres one
http://bigfitness.com/leatherdipbelt.html
Everybody keep in mind that your shoulder joint is the shallowest ball and socket joint in the body that is used to support a lot of weight (especially with weight lifters) so keep that in mind before you blow your shoulder out.
http://bigfitness.com/leatherdipbelt.html
Everybody keep in mind that your shoulder joint is the shallowest ball and socket joint in the body that is used to support a lot of weight (especially with weight lifters) so keep that in mind before you blow your shoulder out.
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I appreciate the comments.
The dip belt bmf175 posted a pic of is exactly what mine looks like. I use it for dips, chin-ups/pull-ups, lat shrugs and lately to take strain off my lower back, for squats and calf raises. It can also be used for lunges. Be sure to position it properly to protect your family jewels. You can always lengthen the chain with another foot or so of chain and a couple of carabiners.
At my tender age, I am beginning to think that moving to sets in the 10 to 12 range might be wise to help keep me clear of injury. It is one of the reasons I am curious about doing single sets to failure. And my definition of failure is when a rep can not be performed with strict form.
The dip belt bmf175 posted a pic of is exactly what mine looks like. I use it for dips, chin-ups/pull-ups, lat shrugs and lately to take strain off my lower back, for squats and calf raises. It can also be used for lunges. Be sure to position it properly to protect your family jewels. You can always lengthen the chain with another foot or so of chain and a couple of carabiners.
At my tender age, I am beginning to think that moving to sets in the 10 to 12 range might be wise to help keep me clear of injury. It is one of the reasons I am curious about doing single sets to failure. And my definition of failure is when a rep can not be performed with strict form.
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Hah! Happened more times than I care to count! Have had the ol' shoulder re-built twice now. Or as I like to put it, overhauled every 100,000! Nonetheless, good advice.bmf175 wrote:Heres one
http://bigfitness.com/leatherdipbelt.html
Everybody keep in mind that your shoulder joint is the shallowest ball and socket joint in the body that is used to support a lot of weight (especially with weight lifters) so keep that in mind before you blow your shoulder out.