I got dicked over at MEPS and I need some advice

Buster · Post by **Buster** » July 10th, 2007, 3:49 pm

Rangers, sorry to make ANOTHER post. I really do spend more time reading than I do posting, but... as the title of this thread shows. I went to MEPS today and got screwed.

My recruiter told me going in that if I passed all the physical qualifications and tests then I would get my option 40 because he was going to reserve it for me.

I got all 1's on my physical profile, a 91 on my asvab, 124 on my GT line.

Well it turns out my recruiter didn't reserve that option 40 for me, and apparently according to the MEPS liaisons who called the ROC, Option 40 is full until October and the Army may be suspending it indefinitely due to a high rate of recruits failing out of their training.

So I told them that wasn't good enough and walked outside to call my recruiter. My recruiter asked me to go in there and see what else they had, because they wouldn't even give me 11x today. I told him that wasn't good enough for me, that I want to be a god damn member of the 75th and I want in my contract, and so he turned into a real asshole and went off on tantrum and then hung up on me.

The battalion commander at MEPS said he could make a call and get me 11x with option 4, and then while in Airborne I can volunteer for RIP.

So now I'm pissed. If that's true, why even have an option 40? My recruiter turned into an asshole and left me hanging when he promised to be there for me every step of the way, because I told him the moment he picked up the phone I want option 40 and nothing but, and he said he would go to MEPS with me and tell them that himself, and he didn't. And then the MEPS tried to shove 11x Option 4 down my throat.

I don't want to be Airborne Infantry, I WANT TO BE AN AIRBORNE RANGER.

So Rangers, please instruct me and I will listen, what do I have to do to get to the 75th? I'll do what ever it takes.

And oh yeah, I left with out signing a god damn thing. So I'm not bound by any contracts yet.

RTO · Post by **RTO** » July 10th, 2007, 4:31 pm

If you did not sign anything, you are under NO legal obligation. If you did sign a contract, you are screwed.

How to get an option 40? easy. Accept NOTHING less.

My advice? Make sure they have a couple of good phone #'s and an email address for you, and then tell them to contact you when they have an option 40 ready to sign.

There is
NOother way to guarantee you will get to one of the Ranger Battalions (assuming you qualify and pass all requirements to get there)

Yes, it is possible to volunteer to be a Ranger at Airborne school, but if this is what you have your heart set on, Get it in writing!!!

lusus · Post by **lusus** » July 10th, 2007, 4:47 pm

Concur...you have great scores, they want you. Don't settle (or sign!) for anything less than what you want.

I had a similar situation when I went in (mid-80's). I had scores similar to yours and was pressured hard to go MI. I was unequivocal, it was 'Unassigned Ranger' or nothing. When I got to meps they did the same ridiculous song and dance, so I told them I'd just wait outside till the bus came. The story changed, and I got my shit.

Screw 'em. As Bill says, 'we need more Rangers!'

.

Bugsy · Post by **Bugsy** » July 10th, 2007, 5:42 pm

OF COURSE HE TURNED INTO AN ASSHOLE, THAT'S BECAUSE HE WANTED AN "EASY" NOTCH ON HIS RECRUITMENT QUOTA. NOW HE'S GONNA HAVE TO WORK FOR IT.

IF WE'VE SAID IT ONCE WE'VE SAID IT A 1,000 TIMES.

DO NOT SIGN SHIT UNTIL YOU GET AN OPTION 40 CONTRACT. NO IF ANDS OR BUTS.

HE'LL BITCH AND TRY TO PRESSURE YOU BUT IN THE END, HE WILL GET YOU ONE. (DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OTHER BULLSHIT EXCUSE AS TO WHY ITS NOT AVAILABLE EITHER)

AND THEY'LL TELL YOU DAMN NEAR ANYTHING TO GET YOU TO SIGN. ONCE YOU DO AND IF IT ISN'T ON YOUR OFFICAL CONTRACT YOU'RE FUCKED.

ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE. DO NOT CAVE IN!!!

Buster · Post by **Buster** » July 10th, 2007, 6:03 pm

Rangers, thank you all for your sound advice. I will call my recruiter once I no longer feel like throat punching him and tell him to call me when he has an opt. 40 secured for me.

Meanwhile I will continue pumping away at college classes and getting the 15 credits needed to be a high school graduate. Apparently he can't reserve me an opt. 40 before going to MEPS because I'm not a high school graduate.. Whatever..

Is it time to find a new recruiter? Syracuse is only a half hour away.

Rangerguru · Post by **Rangerguru** » July 10th, 2007, 6:37 pm

Buster wrote:Rangers, thank you all for your sound advice. I will call my recruiter once I no longer feel like throat punching him and tell him to call me when he has an opt. 40 secured for me.

Meanwhile I will continue pumping away at college classes and getting the 15 credits needed to be a high school graduate. Apparently he can't reserve me an opt. 40 before going to MEPS because I'm not a high school graduate.. Whatever..

Is it time to find a new recruiter? Syracuse is only a half hour away.

I would say yes, now that the one you had is poo poo faced at you, he isn't going to do shit for you. When you do go to another one, let him know that you have already been to MEPS and have completed your physical. Don't go in there half cocked, you catch more flies with honey. Be cool headed and explain your situation to him, but don't bad mouth the other guy, you never know who is buddies with whom. Don't sign shit until it's what you really want. It's your life not theirs.

RRDTm3 · Post by **RRDTm3** » July 10th, 2007, 7:21 pm

Buster wrote:Is it time to find a new recruiter?

I fucking gave you one, if you want him call him. he'll do it for me because we are Ranger buddies

Buster · Post by **Buster** » July 10th, 2007, 8:33 pm

RRDTm3 wrote:
Buster wrote:Is it time to find a new recruiter?
I fucking gave you one, if you want him call him. he'll do it for me because we are Ranger buddies

Ranger RRDTm3, he said something about it being against reg for him to help me out because Sgt. Ashley (my recruiter) is in his batt. But I did talk to him, about the last problem I had. Now I have a new one, so my next move was to call him, first thing tomorrow, and ask him if he will take me as his recruit. At that time when he said that I was still working with Sgt. Ashley, so that may have had something to do with it.

RRDTm3 · Post by **RRDTm3** » July 10th, 2007, 8:40 pm

fire the one fuckhead and call Booser

Buster · Post by **Buster** » July 10th, 2007, 9:06 pm

Roger, Ranger RRDTm3.

Invictus · Post by **Invictus** » July 10th, 2007, 9:12 pm

RRDTm3 wrote:fire the one fuckhead and call Booser

Holy shit, is this the same Booser from 1st platoon? I've got a great pic of him at the Ranger Ball pointing to his right shoulder Scroll and Lanpher and Nolan pointing to their Tab. Classic pic.

RRDTm3 · Post by **RRDTm3** » July 10th, 2007, 10:19 pm

Invictus wrote:
RRDTm3 wrote:fire the one fuckhead and call Booser
Holy shit, is this the same Booser from 1st platoon? I've got a great pic of him at the Ranger Ball pointing to his right shoulder Scroll and Lanpher and Nolan pointing to their Tab. Classic pic.

same dude

ma91c1an · Post by **ma91c1an** » July 10th, 2007, 11:16 pm

Pay attention to the advice given to you in this thread. You have been told how to get what you desire. All that you have to do is strive to remain polite, and I highly recommend that you do so. But also be immovable. Be a rock. As advised, tell MEPs and your recruiter, "no Option 40, no signature. Call me when you have what I need. Thanks." Do not forget to say thank you. Courtesy is always a good idea.

When you get your Option 40, do not waste it. If you heed the advice in this thread, it is highly likely that you will get it. If I were in your shoes, I would not sign shit, and I would not join the Army, period, until I had it guaranteed beyond a doubt, in writing, that you have a shot at RIP.

When you graduate Airborne school, and you are thinking "what the FUCK did I do?" the first time that you meet your very own RIP instructors, do not omit to remember that every single one of us here felt the same way the moment that we unassed the bus through the window, following our d-bags.

When your RIP instructors are carefully placing small pebbles under the palms of your hands as you strain in the front leaning rest hour after hour, know that every one of us here went through it, too. When the instructors walk on your belly, jumping from man to man while you are doing flutter kicks, just shake it off, find the humor in it, laugh, and just keep on finning, and counting cadence. Never forget that the instructors cannot kill you. They can just make you fear that they can kill you.

Even if one of your buddies dies in RIP, shrug it off. If you make it to Battalion, and if you are not DX'd, I guarantee that you will know at least one dead guy within the first year. Minimum.

This is the life that you are choosing. If you are going to be a pussy, do not waste the slot.

If you have the attitude that nothing can make you quit, that you can either survive and succeed or die, you may have the right stuff. Only one way to know for sure.

Have fun. Believe it or not, I wish that I could do it all over again.

Even sucking in South Ranier training area. Even pissing my pants in the Yellow River swamp to feel warmth for five seconds. I would do it again in a heart beat. Best years of my life.

Finally, remember this: the brotherhood is forever. Once you are a Bat boy, you can never go back, and you will never wish to do so.

Funniest motherfuckers I have ever known.

:)

Silverback · Post by **Silverback** » July 10th, 2007, 11:42 pm

lusus wrote:Concur...you have great scores, they want you. Don't settle (or sign!) for anything less than what you want.

I had a similar situation when I went in (mid-80's). I had scores similar to yours and was pressured hard to go MI. I was unequivocal, it was 'Unassigned Ranger' or nothing. When I got to meps they did the same ridiculous song and dance, so I told them I'd just wait outside till the bus came. The story changed, and I got my shit.

Screw 'em. As Bill says, 'we need more Rangers!'

.

I had the same thing happen to me in 1983! This is only the first of many times your resolve will be tested. MEPs tried to sign me up as a cook and I ABSOLUTELY refused until I was looking at a Ranger contract! It was a decision that changed my life.

DO NOT BE DISRESPECTFUL! "Honey...Vinegar..etc"

Eyes · Post by **Eyes** » July 11th, 2007, 8:17 am

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