CLP alternatives for IA
CLP alternatives for IA
Need some advice from anyone in the know. For better or worse the IA are getting M16/M4's. As part of a new MiTT team we've been tossing around ideas of how to prevent disaster when it comes to cleaning weapons. The one with the most juice so far is to have them wipe down the bolt group and keep it well lube to keep the carbon loose. The logic being if they dont take the group apart then they cant loose the small parts. Im not the biggest fan but its not the worst idea Ive ever heard. Ive heard the suggestion that we use diesel fuel to clean. I want to use the Iraqi equivelent of WD40 as lubricant. I was hoping someone has run into a similar problem or might have some solutions. The major factors are keeping parts lose to a minimum and making it so the Iraqi can sustain themselves. Thank you Rangers and all the other board members.
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Re: CLP alternatives for IA
Why not just teach them how to break it down and properly clean it and tell them if they lose the parts they're fucked. "You losey? No gun for you!! Two weeks!!" (Soup Nazi voice)archangel wrote:Need some advice from anyone in the know. For better or worse the IA are getting M16/M4's. As part of a new MiTT team we've been tossing around ideas of how to prevent disaster when it comes to cleaning weapons. The one with the most juice so far is to have them wipe down the bolt group and keep it well lube to keep the carbon loose. The logic being if they dont take the group apart then they cant loose the small parts. Im not the biggest fan but its not the worst idea Ive ever heard. Ive heard the suggestion that we use diesel fuel to clean. I want to use the Iraqi equivelent of WD40 as lubricant. I was hoping someone has run into a similar problem or might have some solutions. The major factors are keeping parts lose to a minimum and making it so the Iraqi can sustain themselves. Thank you Rangers and all the other board members.
Couple of patrols without a rifle and they'll think twice about keeping their shit tight. ( I know you can't do that to them, but it might scare them straight!)
If they don't eventually clean the inside and the firing pin and cotter pins etc, who will? This is your disaster waiting to happen, the whole squad/Plt's weapons going tits up from lack of maint. Christ there's only a couple small parts they have to keep, lay 'em out on a drive-on rag while they're cleaning and they should be good to go.
Other option is to have your unit buy a Sonic Cleaner for the weapons, you can put several whole bolt housing groups in there and 10-15 minutes later it's good and clean, they also have a timed lube on the other side. This allows you to clean several parts on one side and lube several others on the other side at the same time. Pretty good deal.
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Re: CLP alternatives for IA
I wouldn't use WD40 (at least if the Iraqi version is the same chemical). WD40 initially loosens stuff up, but it's also good at holding the dirt and dust you loosened up. It also doesn't take the heat as well, leaving the gunk caked on wherever the WD40 collected (if you didn't get it thoroughly wiped off).archangel wrote:I want to use the Iraqi equivelent of WD40 as lubricant.
I'd try to instill on them that the M16 is not an AK! That it shoots more accurately, but there's a price to be paid for that accuracy. Keep it clean, lubed, and properly assembled or be SOL on the battlefield. Be overly repetetive about it, so much that you hear them mimicking your translator when they think you're not in earshot.