They're protesting this?

[ANGRYCivilian]

It wasn't too long ago that horse and cattle thieves were hung. What happened to those days? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, we've evolved into a more caring society.

[Flesh Thorn]

Its kind of up in the air right now. I heard the tapes, conversation between him and the 911 center. Time between his shots and arival of police...bout 30 seconds. He was determined to shoot, nothing the 911 operator could say to stop him. He left the phone, came back and said..."I did it", I shot them two". He was proud of himself.
Fact is, a shot in the air would have sufficed....

A local militant named Quanel X is protesting the shooting of two black men. If he protests in that neighborhood again, Im thinking he could end up shot. Biker dudes, rednecks, all screaming to be heard.

Ive seen this thing, heard it from beginning to end...I can't see the justification for smoking both of them. He wanst in danger.....

Hmmmm.........a kinder and less violent Abell9 ?

[Sleepy Doc]

Don't get me wrong, personally I feel these cats got just what they deserve. If you break into someones house, you have to expect that one day you just might break into the wrong one and get shot. I would like nothing more than to have a tricked out M-4 or hotrod Remington 870 from ScattergunTechnologies. If somebody makes the mistake of breaking into my house, I'm gonna blast them into next week

However, the reality is that we live in a ligitious society and there are several factors in play here. If he really, truly believed that his life (or someone else's) was in danger there would be no dispute. I'm 6'5" and almost 300 lbs. I would be hard pressed to convince someone that I felt my life was threatened by someone shorter than me... but what if they had a bat and were on a crazy meth binge?.. or if I was in a wheel chair? Was he acting for his neighbor to stop the commission of a felony? It's all situational.

Also, there is pre-meditation. It would be non-premeditated if he suddenly indicated that he felt in immediate danger. "Holy Shit!" or some other explitive. Instead, he warned the dispatcher several times that he intended to go outside and shoot them. He contemplated the act.

I ain't passin' judgement on anybody. I wasn't there, and there are a lot more questions than answers. It is only right to leave this to a grand jury. It will be interesting to see if they decide to prosecute. I for one don't think they will. (being Texas, doncha know?....)

[Sleepy Doc]

If somebody tries that shit in my house they have thiswaiting on 'em....





It's loud as a fucking cannon so if I don't hit em, I'll at least scare 'em shitless!...

[ANGRYCivilian]

What about this beast for home defense?



Anyone shot one of these .410 revolvers?

[RangerX]

The three tenets of Freedom are Life, Liberty & Property.

This guy's only fuckup is that he was on the phone. He should have hung up, shot them, place objects in plain view that could be used as weapons and then claimed self defense.

[Ardent Lady]

Old Grunt, you've again written a well thought out and reasonable arguement, one that I agree with whole heartedly.

One thing I thought of as I read: If Sean Taylor's neighbor had been as concerned for the welfare of his neighbor as our hero in this thread, 3,000 people would not have been attending a funeral in Miami earlier this week.

[GSXRanger]

The three tenets of Freedom are Life, Liberty & Property.

This guy's only fuckup is that he was on the phone. He should have hung up, shot them, place objects in plain view that could be used as weapons and then claimed self defense.

The only thing I disagree with, is tampering with the scene after the fact. I see where you are coming from though. Tampering with a crime scene, or a scene where Law Enforcement will investigate is always bad Ju Ju.

The magic phrase is... "I was in FEAR for my LIFE."

Keep it simple, Keep it short. But, never EVER say in a 911 phone call... "I am NOT gonna let them get away with this..."

Talk about BAD JU JU!!!