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[Everett Ruess]

"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. "
William G. McAdoo

It's easier just to slam their heads in a car door and move the fuck out.

[JarHedSolja]

Is there any reasoning with these pukes?

Jarhead,

Which one of these turds did all that shit pour out of? Is it that guy that Ranger ArmyofJuan linked to?

Also, he could have three CIB awards without being in Vietnam; GWOT, DS, OJC, OUD. That's 4 at least, along with 3 or 4 combat jumps. It is possible, right?

Negative. IAW AR 600-8-22, the only periods rating CIB awards are WWII, Vietnam, DS and GWOT. The whole Panama, Grenada and the various other conflicts that occurred between the 60's and Desert Storm are referred to as "Vietnam Era" and all of them are only allowed a single CIB, no matter how many of those you were involved in.

Besides.. the kid is like 23 years old. Not possible for him to have been in those other things.

And for reference to the Punk Buster team:

OH AND ABOUT SOMEONE COMING TO SEE ME. MY ADDRESS IS:

1422 STATE STREET
VEAZIE MAINE 04401

[ANGRYCivilian]

I should have known you'd be correct.

Whoever goes could just dump him in the Penobscot when they're done.

[RangerX]

Negative. IAW AR 600-8-22, the only periods rating CIB awards are WWII, Vietnam, DS and GWOT. The whole Panama, Grenada and the various other conflicts that occurred between the 60's and Desert Storm are referred to as "Vietnam Era" and all of them are only allowed a single CIB, no matter how many of those you were involved in.

So if someone went to Panama, then on to Desert Storm a year later, would they rate a CIB with a star or not?

[JarHedSolja]

Negative. IAW AR 600-8-22, the only periods rating CIB awards are WWII, Vietnam, DS and GWOT. The whole Panama, Grenada and the various other conflicts that occurred between the 60's and Desert Storm are referred to as "Vietnam Era" and all of them are only allowed a single CIB, no matter how many of those you were involved in.

So if someone went to Panama, then on to Desert Storm a year later, would they rate a CIB with a star or not?

Yes, then it would be possible. If they were say in Panama and Grenada, they would get only one CIB, no star. Panama and Desert Storm, CIB with star.

[RangerX]

Negative. IAW AR 600-8-22, the only periods rating CIB awards are WWII, Vietnam, DS and GWOT. The whole Panama, Grenada and the various other conflicts that occurred between the 60's and Desert Storm are referred to as "Vietnam Era" and all of them are only allowed a single CIB, no matter how many of those you were involved in.

So if someone went to Panama, then on to Desert Storm a year later, would they rate a CIB with a star or not?

Yes, then it would be possible. If they were say in Panama and Grenada, they would get only one CIB, no star. Panama and Desert Storm, CIB with star.

I went to Panama, then a year later was in Desert Shield/Storm. Barry McCaffrey pinned the CIBs on the LRS unit I was attached to. there were several 1st Batt Rangers and myself with CIBs from Panama. We were made to stand off to the side while the rest of the unit got pinned. We were told that we were NOT qualified to wear the CIB with a star as Panama "didn't count", or some such horse shit. I haven't like McCaffrey too much since then.

So does this mean that I could have been strutting around with a star back then, or did they change something since that time period?

[Everett Ruess]

"(1) To date, a separate award of the CIB has been authorized for
qualified soldiers in any of three conflicts: World War II (7 December
1941 to 3 September 1945), the Korean Conflict (27 June 1950
to 27 July 1953), and the Vietnam Conflict. Service in the Republic
of Vietnam conflict (after 1 March 1961) combined with qualifying
service in Laos (19 April 1961 to 6 October 1962), the Dominican
Republic (28 April 1965 to 1 September 1966), Korea on the DMZ
(after 4 January 1969), Grenada (23 October to 21 November 1983),
Panama (20 December 1989 to 31 January 1990), and the Persian
Gulf War(17 January to 11 April 1991) is recognized by one award
only regardless of whether a soldier has served one or multiple tours
in any or all of these areas."

Sorry bro - one per customer.

[JarHedSolja]

"(1) To date, a separate award of the CIB has been authorized for
qualified soldiers in any of three conflicts: World War II (7 December
1941 to 3 September 1945), the Korean Conflict (27 June 1950
to 27 July 1953), and the Vietnam Conflict. Service in the Republic
of Vietnam conflict (after 1 March 1961) combined with qualifying
service in Laos (19 April 1961 to 6 October 1962), the Dominican
Republic (28 April 1965 to 1 September 1966), Korea on the DMZ
(after 4 January 1969), Grenada (23 October to 21 November 1983),
Panama (20 December 1989 to 31 January 1990), and the Persian
Gulf War(17 January to 11 April 1991) is recognized by one award
only regardless of whether a soldier has served one or multiple tours
in any or all of these areas."

Sorry bro - one per customer.

Pushing for my lack of knowledge. I was pretty sure the Persian Gulf war was seperated from the Vietnam Era conflicts. Guess I was wrong =/

In any case, this fuck who claims to have CIB 2nd award is totally out of regs.

[Everett Ruess]

"(1) To date, a separate award of the CIB has been authorized for
qualified soldiers in any of three conflicts: World War II (7 December
1941 to 3 September 1945), the Korean Conflict (27 June 1950
to 27 July 1953), and the Vietnam Conflict. Service in the Republic
of Vietnam conflict (after 1 March 1961) combined with qualifying
service in Laos (19 April 1961 to 6 October 1962), the Dominican
Republic (28 April 1965 to 1 September 1966), Korea on the DMZ
(after 4 January 1969), Grenada (23 October to 21 November 1983),
Panama (20 December 1989 to 31 January 1990), and the Persian
Gulf War(17 January to 11 April 1991) is recognized by one award
only regardless of whether a soldier has served one or multiple tours
in any or all of these areas."

Sorry bro - one per customer.

Pushing for my lack of knowledge. I was pretty sure the Persian Gulf war was seperated from the Vietnam Era conflicts. Guess I was wrong =/

In any case, this fuck who claims to have CIB 2nd award is totally out of regs.

Yeah - that guy's squared away like a circle.

[Fishboy]

the photo has been tampered with

the unit patch has been covered

Alpha Company 3/75 Infantry (RANGER)
Fort Benning, Georgia US
Long Range Reconnaissance Support/ QRT
2001-2002

how the hell do I get into these units?

I wanna be in georgia!!!

the unit patch is not tampered with. like i said im in the photo. we didnt wear unit patches... its velcro similar to on the new acu uniform. the unit is lrrsd 82 abn. but yeah he was not in the unit and he is not the guy he said he is in the photo and the photo is not of the unit he says it is.

yeah, blow it up, its been fucked with.........

[Jim]

Is there any reasoning with these pukes?

Jarhead,

Which one of these turds did all that shit pour out of? Is it that guy that Ranger ArmyofJuan linked to?

Also, he could have three CIB awards without being in Vietnam; GWOT, DS, OJC, OUD. That's 4 at least, along with 3 or 4 combat jumps. It is possible, right?

a. No it is not. There are fewer than 1500 three time CIB awardees. They served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.

b. A single award of the CIB included the time frame 1960 - sometime after 9-11. In other words if you were in Laos, VN, Dom Rep, Grenada, El Salvador, Panama, Desert Storm, Somalia, you have only one award.

c. A star was authorized as a second award following 9-11. Most of the CIBs with star are Infantry veterans of Desert Storm and Iraq. Or perhaps, Panama and Afgan.

[ANGRYCivilian]

Wow. I never realized that multiple CIB's were that rare. I ASSumed that each recognized conflict was eligible. From a Soldier's standpoint, that is how it should be. Why not be recognized per conflict?

[JarHedSolja]

Wow. I never realized that multiple CIB's were that rare. I ASSumed that each recognized conflict was eligible. From a Soldier's standpoint, that is how it should be. Why not be recognized per conflict?

Because any soldier who was lucky(unlucky) enough to be in all the conflicts going on between Vietnam and Desert storm... would have a CIB + a constellation on his chest for all the operations that went on.

[armyofjuan]

hahah jarhead your fuckin awesome man. thats some funny ass shit. if anyone lives in maine you should go have a "chat" with that fuckin guy. f/51 i blew it up i see what you mean now. actually i believe that ssgt xxxxx the guy in the picture you cut would wear a 82 patch and ranger tab on the velcro. i bet that fuckin guy blurred it out before he put it on myspace. its funny too when you look at the comments of the pictures there is some chics talkin bout how "cool" and shit he is for being a ranger qrt amphib assassin...

[AbnRgr289]

I went to Panama, then a year later was in Desert Shield/Storm. Barry McCaffrey pinned the CIBs on the LRS unit I was attached to. there were several 1st Batt Rangers and myself with CIBs from Panama. We were made to stand off to the side while the rest of the unit got pinned. We were told that we were NOT qualified to wear the CIB with a star as Panama "didn't count", or some such horse shit. I haven't like McCaffrey too much since then.

So does this mean that I could have been strutting around with a star back then, or did they change something since that time period?

Thats me right there.

I got two separate sets of orders, one for each. My 214 states a CIB 2nd award but I don't have orders stating it.