Foreign Students
Foreign Students
Horned Toad made a comment in the Humor section that got me to thinking. Everybody knows that most foreign students get a pass at RS no matter what. As long as they don't quit, they get their tab. I was told back in '84 that this was because one was failed by the RIs a couple of years earlier, and when he went back to his country (Saudi Arabia?) they beheaded him!
My question: Anybody in a position to know if this is myth or fact?
CT Out
My question: Anybody in a position to know if this is myth or fact?
CT Out
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Had a dumb fucking Nigerian in my class......
"survival" training day......fucker hits the rabbitt in the back of the head, but not hard enough to kill it....rabbitt is screaming the worst baby scream you have ever heard, while dumb ass stands there holding it.....
we are all yelling at him to hit it again, finally somebody takes the rabbitt from him and finishes it off......
Should have cooked his dumbass that day too.....shit, I was hungry enough to eat it!
"survival" training day......fucker hits the rabbitt in the back of the head, but not hard enough to kill it....rabbitt is screaming the worst baby scream you have ever heard, while dumb ass stands there holding it.....
we are all yelling at him to hit it again, finally somebody takes the rabbitt from him and finishes it off......
Should have cooked his dumbass that day too.....shit, I was hungry enough to eat it!
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The story I heard about why the State Department always passes foreign students is that sometime in the early 70 some officers came over from Africa. I think the country was Uganda. They went to Ft Sill for artillery school. All they did was grab ass around and chase women so the base commander sent them home. Ruler of the country met them at the airport and shot them in the head. Had them laid out and had a trophy shot taken. He sent the photo and a letter of apology to the base commander of Ft. Sill.
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I guess they should've paid more attention to that Red Leg shit.
When I went to the Infantry Officers Advance Course in 1997 we had a Russian, a Turk and a Greek. The Russian was a LTC and was pretty much a dumb ass. He was all about messing with the other foreign students; we told him to pound sand when he tried it with us. The Greek and the Turk tried hard but there was a significant language barrier. If they didn't meet the graduation requirements, they got a certificate of attendance.
The only foreign students in my Ranger class were a couple of Marines and one Air force guy! That dude was definetly a foreigner !
When I went to the Infantry Officers Advance Course in 1997 we had a Russian, a Turk and a Greek. The Russian was a LTC and was pretty much a dumb ass. He was all about messing with the other foreign students; we told him to pound sand when he tried it with us. The Greek and the Turk tried hard but there was a significant language barrier. If they didn't meet the graduation requirements, they got a certificate of attendance.
The only foreign students in my Ranger class were a couple of Marines and one Air force guy! That dude was definetly a foreigner !
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10th MTN DIV (LI) 1995 to 1997
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1st CAV DIV 1998-2000
Currently S-3/1-141IN, TXANG
Ranger Class 1-97
"It ain't hard to be an officer, but it's damn hard to a good officer." Unknown Chief Petty Officer
"LET NO MAN'S SOUL CRY OUT 'HAD I PROPER TRAINING!" Unknown
I think in this case, Cert, if you get an option 40 contract and don't make it through RIP, we'll send an ArmyRanger.com rep over to the Columbus, GA airport for when you are scheduled to depart for your worldwide assignment.certiorari wrote:Tough..... tough but fair.
What was it you said? Tough..... tough but fair.
Re: Foreign students can't fail
Points well taken. I think this mainly applies to nations in Africa and the Middle East.Catfish wrote:So what you're telling me is that I could have slept and ate, and screwed my buddies, while coasting through Ranger school. I gotta say, I didn't for a frickin moment think I was getting any special treatment as a foriegn student - maybe the RI's are that good at keeping you guessing on your GO/NOGO. I heard that story while on course - about some foreign country beheading their nogo/dropout - and I figured yeah, it could be possible, there's some crazy fricken countries out there, but as a Canuck, I didn't think those behind the scenes diplomatic wink-winks were applicable to us... I gotta say, I did notice that I was the only foreign student not from a third world country, and I wondered why the Brits or Aussies don't send guys on the course - probably because they have there own schools that get the same end result as Ranger school, although as a Ranger I'm not going to say they really do. I just gotta hear that I earned my tab the same as any other guy on the course, and not some bullshit that I was pushed thru - if so, then I gotta say that there's definitely some Yanks that were fricken lucky that I was there to get them their GO.
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Catfish, I don’t know maybe you could have taken easy street, I wouldn’t recommend it and it sounds like you didn’t. I just know what I was told by my Sergeant and other with way more time than me. I can guarantee if I ran the Sate Department that would not be the case, we would not be wasting school slots on non-hackers. Hopefully they treated you just like everyone else and you got the real deal.
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Morrell was one of the older ones before he became the 1st Batt CSM's, course he came from SF so he wasnt anyones cherry.
As for the Foriegn Student. Idi Amine (sp) was the President for Life in Uganda and his country was persona non grata, thus, dont think we had any of them running around at the time. I heard those stories in the 70's but it was mixed between Saudi and Israel. Since Saudi didnt really have a Defence Force (bunch of desert nomads on camels) until later 70's, that story didnt hold. The Israeli story got SOME confirmation in later years when I asked an Israeli Commando if this was true. He said it was and in fact, said the Commander who shot him was later punished. MOstly because he did it in front of witnesses. Heard one other that it was an Iranian which could be very true. We were VERY tight with their Military complex before the fall of Pilavi (Shah) and they did send their soldiers to Ranger School. Some of these guys were pretty good and their internal disapline platform was pretty brutal.
As for the Foriegn Student. Idi Amine (sp) was the President for Life in Uganda and his country was persona non grata, thus, dont think we had any of them running around at the time. I heard those stories in the 70's but it was mixed between Saudi and Israel. Since Saudi didnt really have a Defence Force (bunch of desert nomads on camels) until later 70's, that story didnt hold. The Israeli story got SOME confirmation in later years when I asked an Israeli Commando if this was true. He said it was and in fact, said the Commander who shot him was later punished. MOstly because he did it in front of witnesses. Heard one other that it was an Iranian which could be very true. We were VERY tight with their Military complex before the fall of Pilavi (Shah) and they did send their soldiers to Ranger School. Some of these guys were pretty good and their internal disapline platform was pretty brutal.
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