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Ranger Bill · Post by **Ranger Bill** » October 23rd, 2007, 7:56 am

I am not vouching for the authenticity of this particular photo, but Fox News did show video of the event with sound as the Anthem was sung. I am no apologist for him and ceratinly not a supporter, but my guess is that like too many people, the senator just did not know any better.

Not to highjack, but as a reminder, US Code was ammended this summer and Service Members and Veterans not in uniform are now authorized to render a hand salute to the flag.

EvilCouch · Post by **EvilCouch** » October 23rd, 2007, 8:42 am

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doe ... _1022.html <--Contains video.

Maybe Obama just couldn't recognize it, because the singer is FUCKING BUTCHERING the anthem.

Sleepy Doc · Post by **Sleepy Doc** » October 23rd, 2007, 9:21 am

wazzle wrote:Oh my god, the only thing that pisses me off more than Obama, is the way some people think the National Anthem is their ticket to getting a singing contract. Sing the song the way it was meant to be sung, don't put your own soul into to it. But, that was a Democrat fund raiser.

It's a tough one to sing. You gotta have like an 8 octave range. If you don't have the pipes it will show...

rgrjoe175 · Post by **rgrjoe175** » October 23rd, 2007, 9:57 am

Anyone know if it is a religious issue? I am curious if it is against Muslim beliefs.

I have no clue.

JP

wade_the_duck · Post by **wade_the_duck** » October 23rd, 2007, 2:16 pm

The folks in the crowd also probably shouldn't be snapping photos and waving signs during the playing of the National Anthem either

EvilCouch · Post by **EvilCouch** » October 23rd, 2007, 6:39 pm

The Sleepy Doc wrote:
wazzle wrote:Oh my god, the only thing that pisses me off more than Obama, is the way some people think the National Anthem is their ticket to getting a singing contract. Sing the song the way it was meant to be sung, don't put your own soul into to it. But, that was a Democrat fund raiser.
It's a tough one to sing. You gotta have like an 8 octave range. If you don't have the pipes it will show...

Yeah, but it's not American Idol, brother. I think anyone trying to throw their own spin on the National Anthem while presenting it needs to be punched in their reproductive organs. If they want to do their own rendition of it on their own time, that's cool. But, it's not the Blues Anthem or the Lounge Anthem or the Soul Anthem. It's the National Anthem and it's about the country it represents, not the singer performing it. No showboating allowed.

rgrjoe175 wrote:Anyone know if it is a religious issue? I am curious if it is against Muslim beliefs.

I have no clue.

JP

Well, he's not Muslim, so even if that were the case, he couldn't use it as an excuse.

Oto-Man · Post by **Oto-Man** » October 23rd, 2007, 8:32 pm

rgrjoe175 wrote:Anyone know if it is a religious issue? I am curious if it is against Muslim beliefs.

I have no clue.

JP

Last time my redneck ass checked (and it has been a couple of years) there was some shit in the constitution that talked about .....Church over here...state goes over there....and they stayed kinda seperate...

I asked my friend Omar...and he said he can actually be a Muslim AND salute our.....wait for it.......Flag...and it's ok.... 'cause for some reason his religion is differ'nt than his nationality......go figure that shit out????

Whatever...good luck to all of the losers running this year...ain't one...well maybe one...worth a damn....

Chiron · Post by **Chiron** » October 24th, 2007, 1:01 am

Ranger Bill wrote:I am not vouching for the authenticity of this particular photo, but Fox News did show video of the event with sound as the Anthem was sung. I am no apologist for him and ceratinly not a supporter, but my guess is that like too many people, the senator just did not know any better.

Not to highjack, but as a reminder, US Code was ammended this summer and Service Members and Veterans not in uniform are now authorized to render a hand salute to the flag.

Wow, video! It looks like he doesnâ€™t know anything. How does he think he can lead a nation when he doesnâ€™t know the laws and regulations?

Itâ€™s good to know that vets can salute the flag!

Publius · Post by **Publius** » October 26th, 2007, 2:08 pm

During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171

Is there a flag not shown in the photo that they are all facing, or are they really turning their back on the flag to face the singer and cameras?

Glenn, MSG Ret. · Post by **Glenn, MSG Ret.** » October 26th, 2007, 2:45 pm

I remember during the early days of Bill Clinton's presidency when he wouldn't return the salute from the Marines standing at the bottom of the ladder on Marine 1. the excuse was none of his people realized that it was required! It took several months for someone to clue him in. I still wonder if it wasn't a blatant disregard for our military.

cams · Post by **cams** » November 15th, 2007, 7:56 pm

GSXRanger wrote:Ok, I'm busted. It took me HOURS to photoshop the Muslim... er, I mean... Candidate into this picture.

Dude, did you really photoshop this?

EvilCouch · Post by **EvilCouch** » November 15th, 2007, 8:48 pm

cams wrote:
GSXRanger wrote:Ok, I'm busted. It took me HOURS to photoshop the Muslim... er, I mean... Candidate into this picture.
Dude, did you really photoshop this?

Nah. Check the video link I posted. He's really there with his hands just chilling out while the Anthem's getting butchered by some warbling weirdo.

Steadfast · Post by **Steadfast** » November 16th, 2007, 12:16 pm

Silverback wrote:
Chiron wrote:I found this picture hard to believe albeit would love to see that it's fact.

One question, why does Obama's shadow stop at the chair and not continue?
I saw it on Fox news....So it's gotta' be true!

His shadow falls on the seat of the chair (of Bill Richardson) thereby ending its length on the ground.

hobbit · Post by **hobbit** » November 17th, 2007, 12:05 am

You have to give Obama one thing: unlike other left-wingers who pretend they give a damn about this country, Obama wears his contempt for America, for our Constitution, for our institutions, for our democracy, right out there on his sleeve.

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