Re: Disrespect

[Ranger Ron]

How can we expect the youngsters to learn about respect when Congress acts the way they do to each other. It will continue in this country until enough folks have the balls to stand up and say "Enough is enough" Politically incorrect or not, you whack the little ones on the butt a few times until they "Get it". (We should begin that process in DC too)

[Jim]

But overall it comes down to RESPECT.

When My 14 yr. old step-son said "FUCK YOU...You're NOT MY DAD!!!" I realized that his outside influences (read: friends at school) had seeped into his skull full of mush and corrupted him.

It took a couple of hard years, but I regained his respect, through "VERY AUTHORITARIAN" methods, and the little shit calls me every other day from School in PA to let me know what is going on and to just say HI....

When I got married (2d time) it was to a woman with two teen-age girls. I explained to them that I recognized that I was not their father. I was their mother's husband. Sadly, the marriage only lasted seven years, but when the younger one got married (the older one remains unmarried), she asked me to give her away. I could not ask for better children of my own.

[RTO]

Prayer in school was taken out many years ago and we have had a general decline in society and especially our youth nearly co-insiding with this time frame.

Coincidence? Anyone care to comment on that one?

[Ranger Ron]

Prayer in school was taken out many years ago and we have had a general decline in society and especially our youth nearly co-insiding with this time frame.

Coincidence? Anyone care to comment on that one?

Yes I would....I think it is all a part of the same thing. Too many people have no moral compass and believe that no one should be judged for their behavior. (Unless you disagree with them)

"If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything!"

[cams]

I remember telling my old man to "fuck off" once.
That's actually about all I remember of the incident, except for thinking "gee, you really can see better when you're flying!", and that the wall behind me was a lot sturdier than it looked.

Think we've all been there. ONCE.

A place never to return.

[RTO]

I remember telling my old man to "fuck off" once.
That's actually about all I remember of the incident, except for thinking "gee, you really can see better when you're flying!", and that the wall behind me was a lot sturdier than it looked.

I think your old man and my old man must somehow be related. That or at a minimum they were both honor grads at the same parenting101 class

[ANGRYCivilian]

No one beats their kids anymore. Hell, I used to get my ass tore up for GP sake.

GP. That's so when you're up to no good and don't get caught, you still get punished.

[RTO]

Ranger RTO,
When I was a kid if I got out of line I got my ass whooped. PERIOD. And it never made me question whether or not my folks gave a damn about me. It just proved that they did.

With regard to your mention of taking prayer out of school, they did that first, then they took the National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance out.

I have to commend Texas on their school systems though; at least in Harker Heights the kids stand and put their hands over their hearts for both the National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance.

Thanks for your input (and avatar :D ) nice to know their are still a few schools out their doing what is right. I assume these are public schools you speak of? That is AWESOME. And a good start to a return to what never should have left in the first place.

As far as WOOPINGS go, there is a time and place. NEVER for dumb things like spilling the milk, accidents etc... Major disipline should only be for WILLFULL DISOBEDIENCE and DEFIANCE.

I also believe praise and rewards should be given for good behavior.
Often times just spending time with your kids is all they want.

[Capellanus]

Any disciplinary action taken towards minors has greater consequences to the disciplinarian than it does the minor.

This is a sad truth. Parents are looked down at when they discipline their children in the public square. We (the American people) have surrendered many of our God given rights and responsibilities to the Big Government. We have given them the right to tell us how we should discipline our kids and the right to take them from us if we cross their perceived lines.

No one beats their kids anymore. Hell, I used to get my ass tore up for GP sake.

Sadly too many parents have beaten their children out of emotion and anger and thus has cause the States and Govn’t to step in and punish those who do. Many parents (who do) spank their kids because they don’t know any other way to “train up a child.â€

[Ranger Ron]

As far as WOOPINGS go, there is a time and place. NEVER for dumb things like spilling the milk, accidents etc... Major disipline should only be for WILLFULL DISOBEDIENCE and DEFIANCE.

I also believe praise and rewards should be given for good behavior.
Often times just spending time with your kids is all they want.

Concur 100%. Effective praise is important...and necessary in my book.

Bad behavior only becomes habit if it is allowed to continue. I'd never EVER condone abusing a child or physically counseling them for accidents/mistakes. In fact I HATE smackin my kid's hand (I hesitate to even say "smack" because I'm certainly not strong armed with her, she's only 1), but I'll do it in a second if she's getting ugly with me. The last thing I need is for her to think smackin at me or screaming at me is acceptable behavior.

You made a very important point in your earlier post here. Children determine that you love them because you care enough to make them do what is right. Although they don't always act that way, they know it.

[cams]

Don't be pussies. Beat your kids.

[Looon]

Don't be pussies. Beat your kids.

Yep. If I haven't had to smack my kid in a while, Ill smack him on the way out the door to school just as a reminder that Im here. j/k