Clothing does not make good cover (may be graphic to some)

[Silverback]

However I do not know if the video is real or not. Just thought it was cool, so I posted it.

It's not on you brother...Thanks for posting it. The video is a great discussion piece.

[Spartan]

However I do not know if the video is real or not. Just thought it was cool, so I posted it.

I expect to see you lowcrawling down to Blockbuster and back in about 15 minutes. I'll be down to personally supervise, after which I'd like to see some IMTing on the big open area just south of the Gas Station!

[SkyShark]

However I do not know if the video is real or not. Just thought it was cool, so I posted it.

I expect to see you lowcrawling down to Blockbuster and back in about 15 minutes. I'll be down to personally supervise, after which I'd like to see some IMTing on the big open area just south of the Gas Station!

As to not bring down the wrath of the other Rangers on this site I will wait until I see you next to tell you I want to suck a dick.

[JMK SF G-2]

I gotta admit, I think that it's fake, too. There were no blood trails when the clerk dragged the "perp" out of the store.

Even so, it is a nice little show.

[JMK SF G-2]

Bwaa haa haa ha! I just got it, after watching the vid again.

People don't want to be on video 24/7. The bored clerk thought that he would do a show for the video watchers! Awesome. Think about it - he's in a clothes store for chrissakes. He's gotta do SOMETHING to break up the monotony.

Now, I must move out to plan my own surveillance camera "entertainment". :D

[RGR_Dan]

Although its always possible that it is staged, look at these factors as well.
After he first shoots the perp and he falls, the clerk actually sees the perp pick up the gun again and thats why he goes behind the rack so he can get the drop on him. Then if you look close enough you can see him cover his mouth as if he was disgusted with himself.

No jury in america would convict someone for that! except maybe in California

[SkyShark]

Although its always possible that it is staged, look at these factors as well.
After he first shoots the perp and he falls, the clerk actually sees the perp pick up the gun again and thats why he goes behind the rack so he can get the drop on him. Then if you look close enough you can see him cover his mouth as if he was disgusted with himself.

No jury in america would convict someone for that! except maybe in California

And southern Oregon

[blinc]

It's gotta be because it's attached right next to us in CA.

[SkyShark]

It's gotta be because it's attached right next to us in CA.

Dude you are fucking sharp.

[blinc]

I try. :)

[Silverback]

Bwaa haa haa ha! I just got it, after watching the vid again.

People don't want to be on video 24/7. The bored clerk thought that he would do a show for the video watchers! Awesome. Think about it - he's in a clothes store for chrissakes. He's gotta do SOMETHING to break up the monotony.

Now, I must move out to plan my own surveillance camera "entertainment". :D

What a brilliant and absolutely genius idea. Late shift nothing to do...Video peering over your shoulder. Awesome

[gpatmac]

No way of telling authenticity. It looks like it could have very possibly been staged, but you've got to admit that there's no denying that it could have happened. Until someone finds an article or two that legitimizes the clip, it's still subject to opinion.

That said...what was so disturbing about it?

Even though it's taken from the civilian sector, it's an awesome vignette to discuss ROE. The would-be thief made himself into a combatant. Not protected by any rights at that point.

Now, if this scenario were to happen in a combat zone, the camera personifies any witnesses. I'm no lawyer and don't know the laws detailing 'double-tapping', I do know that that guy was a threat even after the 2nd shot; just like KH said. Until a combatant is physically clear of his weapon, though surrender or death....he's still a combatant. Just because someone is bleeding on the ground doesn't lessen the threat that they pose.

[Thursday]

I call bullshit....The video looks staged to me.

That is the first thing that I thought of Ranger Silverback. The Muzzel flashes look way too fake, not to mention the round that the clerk hit the perp with, there wasnt even a muzzel flash.

[Silverback]

Until a combatant is physically clear of his weapon, though surrender or death....he's still a combatant.

Combatant? Doesn't apply in this situation. Not being "Physically clear of his weapon" is not a decision making criteria (according to the Law of Armed Conflict), now if he continued to pose a viable threat then game on.