MP7, UMP, and Other Guns..

IroningBoy · Post by **IroningBoy** » October 12th, 2004, 12:53 pm

Just wondering about your inputs on the new MP7... I read about it in the Popular Mechanics Sept 2004, the same goes for the Heckler&Koch UMP which is supposed to have great multi-caliber capabilities... I dunno about you all but having a submachine gun with the ability to fire a .40 cal instead of 9mm sounds like one helluva deal...

heres an article on the MP7
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg49-e.htm

Heres an article on the UMP
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg16-e.htm

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Lastly.. Im contemplating about whether or not I should spend the money on a personal fire arm while in the service. The choice would be up in the air between a MK23 / USP, or a Springfield Armory XD Full sized... I've fired alot of rounds from my dads glock 23 (.40cal), Beretta 92f and Colt 1911 .45, i love all of the guns but prefer the heavier round of a .40 and .45 rather then the 9mm.

I apologize for writting so much, but my dad (prior service US ARMY) is a gun nut and i've spent alot of time behind em... I'm just wondering what your views are on some of the stuff I'm interested in

Ranger2 · Post by **Ranger2** » October 12th, 2004, 1:21 pm

What the fuck is a gun?

Ranger2

Looon · Post by **Looon** » October 12th, 2004, 1:43 pm

Iron head,

You've been playing a little too much Rainbow Six 3.

IroningBoy · Post by **IroningBoy** » October 12th, 2004, 2:02 pm

No... not really if I was Id probably be talkin about should i buy me a desert eagle chrome .50 cal, or what about the M4a1M203 ! Really though... I just go shooting with my dad alot... AR15, Glock 23, 92f, 1911... So I dunno... I probably came up sounding like a dumbshit huh Ranger Luna / Ranger Ranger2? If so I apologize

Parabellum · Post by **Parabellum** » October 13th, 2004, 9:25 am

The MP-10 is what the FBI uses. It fires a 10mm cartridge. That is the best way to go I think.

Rock Island Ranger · October 13th, 2004, 10:27 am

Ranger2 wrote:What the fuck is a gun?

Ranger2

Had my wife polish mine last night. Oh, sorry R2....you aint gettin any...sorry to rub it in. In your case, its that thing you vigorously wash everytime you take a shower.

Horned Toad · Post by **Horned Toad** » October 13th, 2004, 12:01 pm

I have not shot the UMP but the folks that I know who have say it is a clunky piece of shit that is nothing like the MP5

As far as pistols I think the best of both worlds would be a Para-Ordance P16 limited, I like the .45s and own several but am happy with the .40 for a work round. The berreta is a piece of shit and the Mk23 is to fucking big. I have a compact USP in .40 for work and like it okay.

With respect to Terry I dont agree that subguns are on the way out. I dont think they would be working on rounds like the 6.8 Remington and the 6.5 Grendel if they were happy with the terminal performece of the 5.56 from a short barrel. I agree that someting like a 6.5 in a carbine would fill more than one role, but would rather have the right tool for the job at hand.

Now thank your dad for his service to our country, stop hanging on his coattails and be your own man.

Ranger2 · Post by **Ranger2** » October 13th, 2004, 12:06 pm

Abell9 wrote:
Ranger2 wrote:What the fuck is a gun?

Ranger2
Had my wife polish mine last night. Oh, sorry R2....you aint gettin any...sorry to rub it in. In your case, its that thing you vigorously wash everytime you take a shower.

Sorry old man, just because I'm not married doesn't mean I am not getting any. You would be surprised on how many woman love a man who is raising kids. I think they feel like they are rescuing me. Most of them have never been married too.

Ranger2