Shopping for an M4 (PIX Added)
Shopping for an M4 (PIX Added)
I am trying to figure out which .223 M4 style rifle to buy. I really don't have a budget, but I'm kinda cheap. Any suggestions?
Last edited by CWeber on January 29th, 2008, 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Are you looking to buy one already built? Or build it yourself?
I have two. One is a DPMS varmit, the other is a Smith / Wesson M&P-15T.
There are so many options out there... from mild to wild. It is almost cheaper to buy a lower through an FFL, do your own trigger assembly, and then get an upper that suits your fancy.
For a tactical gun, I like the Smith / Wesson... but, asside from the free floated, semi-mono rails it has, it's just another mil-spec M4.
I am sure there are others on here that can guide you better than me.
I have two. One is a DPMS varmit, the other is a Smith / Wesson M&P-15T.
There are so many options out there... from mild to wild. It is almost cheaper to buy a lower through an FFL, do your own trigger assembly, and then get an upper that suits your fancy.
For a tactical gun, I like the Smith / Wesson... but, asside from the free floated, semi-mono rails it has, it's just another mil-spec M4.
I am sure there are others on here that can guide you better than me.
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I have a Rock River Arms entry tactical. In my opinion the trigger is the best factory trigger I've ever fired. I actually prefer it to my Chip McCormick drop in. The only downside is that the gun is very barrel heavy. Everything forward of the front sight post looks normal, but the barrel underneath the handguards is THICK. They normally go for around a grand.
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
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X2 have the same oneGoldCoast wrote:I have a Rock River Arms entry tactical. In my opinion the trigger is the best factory trigger I've ever fired. I actually prefer it to my Chip McCormick drop in. The only downside is that the gun is very barrel heavy. Everything forward of the front sight post looks normal, but the barrel underneath the handguards is THICK. They normally go for around a grand.
Hope that helps.
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handled one of the RR Ar's a couple weeks back. i cant say i noticed the extra weight. next time i am over that way i will see if i can get a box weight between the RR and the S & W...if i recall the S&W was a couple hundred bucks cheaper when they first released it..not sure how prices have balanced out now..
good hunting. i have wanted one of these for a while was well just havent had the time or the extra cash to go out and pick it up.
that time is right around the corner now.
good hunting. i have wanted one of these for a while was well just havent had the time or the extra cash to go out and pick it up.
that time is right around the corner now.
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Click on the 'Guns Magazine, October 2004' link. That will open the article I referring to.
This is what made me interested in the company. Fooling around with a Rock River that someone else owned while stationed in Iraq finalized the decision for me.
Click on the 'Guns Magazine, October 2004' link. That will open the article I referring to.
This is what made me interested in the company. Fooling around with a Rock River that someone else owned while stationed in Iraq finalized the decision for me.
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Duty a mountain; Death a feather.
One of these days I'll start off slow...
Duty a mountain; Death a feather.
One of these days I'll start off slow...
The RRA gun is definately one of the the ones I've considered. I'm really not sure about buying a lower seperate from an upper. I'm sure its not a big deal, however I would rather just get a complete rifle with some sort of warranty. So if there was any sort of problem I could'nt figure out I would'nt be responsible for figuring out what it was. I do like the "Entry Tactical" and appreciate the advice
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Ranger CWeber, here are some links from one website that is dedicated to the M4 weapon. Among the site are many current forum posts of end users describing their experience, both good and bad, with their purchases. I don't think registering is required to read the forums, but appears needed to search the site.
Good luck, and enjoy your purchase whatever it may be.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642
Comparison chart of manufacturers options/attributes.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355
Knowledge base thread compilation.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7009
Technical information compilation.
Good luck, and enjoy your purchase whatever it may be.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642
Comparison chart of manufacturers options/attributes.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355
Knowledge base thread compilation.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7009
Technical information compilation.
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Build your own. Even building in the cost of new tools, you'll get a kick-ass gun at a reasonable price, built to your specs, and you'll know it inside and out.
AR15.com has complete guides.
AR15.com has complete guides.
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I have a DPMS M4 it is scarey accurate. The beast in incredibly reliable. I ran the beast nearly 5K rounds without cleaning until I started having feeding and extraction issues.
One of my buds has the S&W MP15T..it is a great gun too. He has over 4K through it without any issues.
Most of the firearms on the market are pretty damn good. I would steer clear of Olympic Arms. I ahve heard too many stories of less than stellar performance. I am going off second hand info from trusted sources.
One of my buds has the S&W MP15T..it is a great gun too. He has over 4K through it without any issues.
Most of the firearms on the market are pretty damn good. I would steer clear of Olympic Arms. I ahve heard too many stories of less than stellar performance. I am going off second hand info from trusted sources.
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Spend more money now and get a POF 415 gas piston upper, and put it on a DPMS or RR lower reciever. You won't have to clean that thing and it runs like steve prefontaine. I did this and I am very happy with the performance.
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