Some BOGSAT

[Jim]

Bunch of Old Guys Sitting And Talking (BOGSAT) Memories.
You know you're an "Old Soldier" when....

* You know what GDP means and still remember where yours was and how long it took to occupy.

* You remember when we had tactical nukes and really planned to use them.

* You remember spending hours in MOPP4 and doing M256 kits.

* You remember when the M8 Claymore and M72 LAW were part of CTT.

* You remember when ARTEPs were 36 hours and you had fun.

* You remember what the hell a > "> 1K zone> "> was.

* You remember "ducks," and they weren't feathered.

* You remember when Carl Vuono was CG (8th ID(M)) and Max Thurman was head of recruiting command.

* You know what a Gama Goat and GOER were and could fix an M151A2 to run off one prop shaft.

* You remember snow chains on a deuce and a half.

* You remember the monastery in Wildflecken.

* You remember POMCIS, where your site was, and what was in it.

* You had a license for an M-1941 stove.

* You remember when "c" rations came in cans and were the 1SGs cigarette supply.

* You remember what a P38 is used for.

* You remember everyone had a "reel to reel".

* You remember when the Israelis were bad ***** and we all wanted to be like them.

* You remember when Saddam Hussein was our loyal ally.

* You remember jungle fatigues - and when they fit you.

* You remember when Airland Battle was a new concept, and everyone religiously read 100-5.

* You know what the "Cap Weinberger Doctrine" was.

* You remember green tabs strapped a " Pistol, Caliber .45,Automatic:
M1911A1"

* You can remember Team Spirit and REFORGER were every year.

* You can remember what REFORGER stood for - and they were happy to see you.

* You remember when the M16 was a plastic carbine, and you hoped for an M14.

* You remember beer and cigarette machines in the barracks.

* You remember Happy Hour at the club - before MPs were waiting at the gate.

* You can remember going to the Club at Graf, drinking, and watching Margaret.

* You personally know Margaret.

* You know what a "Smokey" at Hohenfels is.

* You know Herb at Hohenfels.

* You know the difference between the VRC46, VRC47, PRC77 and VRC160 and the requisite installation kits.

* You know what a CEOI is and you can encrypt grids.

* You remember when NTC was a new and cool concept.

* You have never heard of a yellow stress card.

* You remember when it was real cool to go to SAMs or be an OC at NTC.

* You remember when as a new LT/CPT you could go out and train your soldiers and not have an OC tell you how screwed up you were.

* You remember battalion commanders and 1SG's who were Vietnam Vets.

* You remember battalion commanders who drank, swore and mentored.

*You remember battalion commanders who were ruthless about tactics, but didn't give a crap about admin BS.

* You remember as a LT/CPT you had raters and senior raters who actually had the balls to rank you in their profile - to your face.

* You remember when 60% selected on promotion boards was - awesome.

[BruteForce]

Bunch of Old Guys Sitting And Talking (BOGSAT) Memories.
You know you're an "Old Soldier" when....


* You remember when we had tactical nukes and really planned to use them.
* You remember spending hours in MOPP4 and doing M256 kits.
* You know what a Gama Goat and GOER were and could fix an M151A2 to run off one prop shaft.
* You remember what a P38 is used for.
* You can remember Team Spirit and REFORGER were every year.
* You can remember what REFORGER stood for - and they were happy to see you.
* You have never heard of a yellow stress card.

I had a hit on the above.. :D

[cams]

I remember about half of 'em, guess I ain't as old as I feel!!

...and try taking that ride to Yak without any snivvle gear (a sleep shirt at most was acceptable, never once wore a field jacket in Batt, wasn't allowed).

Cold and wet was the uniform of the day.

[DixieRat]

And a few more:

When "breaking starch" did not mean reducing your intake of certain foods, but meant putting on a uniform that was so stiff it would crackle when your arms went into the sleeves.

Khaki uniforms ( also starched).

You can still remember the contents of a B-2 or B-3 unit.

When there were still 1SG's who earned their CIB's in Korea.

When every GI had a bottle of Glo-Coat in his wall locker.

When Racquel Welch was not referred to as a MILF.

Now where's that bottle of Geritol?

The best looking uniform ever was a Paratrooper or Ranger in Starched Khakis.

One other: If you know what a "Cunt Cap" is and wore one.

[spanky]

Damn. I hit on almost every one. Here's a couple more:

Shooting 175mm howitzers over on the east range at Fort Sill.

Trading Playboys for East German belt buckles on the border stones.

M109 short barrel howitzers that allegedly could swim.

Figuring out how to shoot the ammo for the old M-19 60mm mortar out of the new M224 mortars.

C7-A jumps in Pathfinder School.

Trading in our M60A3 tanks and M113s for brand new M1s and M3s.

FADAC gunnery computers.

AN/MPQ-4 counter fire radars.

F105s dropping napalm in CALFEXs at Bragg.

Heavy dropping Gamma Goats and M102 howitzers.

Heavy dropping Sheridans.

Shilleleigh missiles.

Knowing how many nuclear artillery rounds you were allocated and where to go get them at the NASP.

HALO teams using Paracommanders instead of square chutes.

Being on jump status at Bragg and wearing a baseball cap instead of a beret.

Company mess sections.

[Ranger Bill]

Amusing posts for sure. I will add to this nostalgia the following:

CEOI??? Before that was SOI

White name tags and black and gold U.S. Army on fatigues

The only Berets were Green

Columbus and Fayetteville drinking establishments were private clubs only, you had to bring in your own bottle and give it to the bartender and he had to serve it to you and they charged for "set-ups"

There was no Ranger Creed

You hand carried your 201 to include medical and finance records when you PCS'd

PT tests included the Run, Dodge and Jump, the dead man carry, the low crawl, and the grenade throw

There were pinapple grenades

There were no patent leather low quarters

Calls home from overseas locations were relayed by volunteer HAM radio operators

CBR training

[MrsDocMac]

And a few more:

When "breaking starch" did not mean reducing your intake of certain foods, but meant putting on a uniform that was so stiff it would crackle when your arms went into the sleeves.

Khaki uniforms ( also starched).

You can still remember the contents of a B-2 or B-3 unit.

When there were still 1SG's who earned their CIB's in Korea.

When every GI had a bottle of Glo-Coat in his wall locker.

When Racquel Welch was not referred to as a MILF.

Now where's that bottle of Geritol?

The best looking uniform ever was a Paratrooper or Ranger in Starched Khakis.

One other: If you know what a "Cunt Cap" is and wore one.

I'm 22 and remember that one Ranger DixieRat....

[Chiron]

Lots of memories!

My favorite is an old picture as a PFC in a Khaki uniform in bloused boots with "Black beret" and Ranger Tab! I miss that uniform.

[Jim]

I missed a couple:

Jumping the C119 from the Alabama Air National Guard. Had to alternate jump doors so as not to get someone's boot in your face.

When the TOW was introduced to the 82d we kept our 106mm Recoiless Rifles (mounted on an M151A1C) for about a year. Talk about being a well armed platoon. Same number of troopers, but 8 106 jeeps and 8 TOW-mounted mechanical mules. Spent a lot of time on the range and in the motor pool.

The introduction of VOLAR. The beer machine in the dayroom.

Being able to comb your hair in Ranger School (back when I had hair).

[spanky]

I remember going to inventory the basic load pallets one day in 1980 at HAAF. Some of the shit we had there must have dated from WWI. Leather vessicant to rub into your boots to protect from chemicals. Green fatigues impregnated with some shit that was supposed to stop chemicals. M3 decon kits with some type of powder that you were supposed to put on to soak up the chemicals. I don't think any of this crap would have worked. Not that it mattered. I don't ever remember wearing my gas mask in 1st Batt, except maybe to do annual gas chamber training. We never took them to the field.