Who here carries a pistol for personal protection?

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Re: Who here carries a pistol for personal protection?

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Zonk 1/75 wrote:
IEDmagnet wrote:Maybe he should have looked at my cars specialty tag that says SC Law Enforcement Officer.
:shock: I have to ask, what is the purpose of identifying yourself to all the world that you are an off duty cop?

He does it for the free doughnuts
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Zonk 1/75 wrote:
IEDmagnet wrote:Maybe he should have looked at my cars specialty tag that says SC Law Enforcement Officer.
:shock: I have to ask, what is the purpose of identifying yourself to all the world that you are an off duty cop?

For the free doughnuts....geez.















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Re: Who here carries a pistol for personal protection?

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Unfortunately, the US Army Alaska Commanding General's Policy prohibits concealed carry for soldiers, regardless of the fact that Alaska does not require a CCW at all.
I heard about that policy.

The term "Go fuck yourself" comes to mind, among other things...

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In a 'Non-Permissive Environment (NPE), I carry if no metal detectors (within USA).

What a General who is not 'in contact' with bad guys has to say means nothing while you
are fighting for your life (and the General is not there at the time). General's who make
such 'rulings' seem to have lost the essence of what it is to be a 'Warrior'.
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Dan B 3/75 wrote:
The term "Go fuck yourself" comes to mind, among other things...
Tell me about it. The shitty thing is that if I do carry and defend myself then on top of defending my actions in court, I'll have a weapons charge on me from the army. What a turd burglar.
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mortar_guy78 wrote:
Dan B 3/75 wrote:
The term "Go fuck yourself" comes to mind, among other things...
Tell me about it. The shitty thing is that if I do carry and defend myself then on top of defending my actions in court, I'll have a weapons charge on me from the army. What a turd burglar.

It really sucks when the Chain-of-Command has their heads fully inserted up their 4th point of contact.

Open Carry for the purpose of protection in a populated environment can lead to being 'selected'' by
a criminal for ambush and weapon theft taking place.

Be careful out there.


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I wouldn't worry about that too much in Alaska. A lot of people carry openly here. It's not an uncommon sight at all.

In fact, this is the kind of place where no one even bats an eyelash at a large revolver on the waist or in a shoulder holster. Especially during moose season.
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So I get to work today, and get informed that the "weapon buy-back" policy is in effect. I just got a new Glock 22 Gen 4 pistol this year, but it seems we are switching to the Glock 45's. What a waste of money...but the perk is I get this Gen 4 for $395, and I am the only owner so I know what I am getting.
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1. Guns are used in self-defense over 2 million times a year. However, this makes the attempted crime a "non-event," which necessarily complicates the Police investigation. Without civilian ownership of guns, these Police investigations would not have been compromised. Civilians should leave crime prevention to the Police, who are properly equipped to investigate following the crime's completion.

2. Some .004 % (4/1000 of 1%) of guns are used in crime each year. This is way too high. All guns should be banned.

3. Guns are unnecessary. In 98% of civilian gun defenses, no shot is fired. If you are not going to fire a shot, you clearly don't need a gun. This proves that the guns are unnecessary. Banning guns will prevent these unnecessary defenses.

4. Guns cause criminal migration. In tough gun-law Washington, D. C., violent crime rates are very high. This high crime rate is caused by the migration of criminals from gun havens like Virginia. This migration is caused by the criminal's cowardly avoidance of armed householders and concealed-carry civilians. This criminal migration is detrimental to helpless unarmed citizens in no-gun areas and must be stopped. Therefore, guns should be banned everywhere.

5. Most gun crimes are committed by inner city gangs and drug dealers. These relatively small and geographically restricted groups consistently commit the majority of gun crimes, which usually peak as turf wars erupt over Drug War changes. The best way to prevent this is by denying guns to all law abiding people everywhere.

6. No woman needs to protect herself from rape, assault or murder. The Police will protect women by investigating the crime after the fact. Remember, Police paperwork is all the protection anyone really needs.

7. Guns owners are disrespectful of authority. Good citizens should completely rely on the authorities. A failure to do so is an invariable sign of improper and overly independent attitudes. Failure to completely and absolutely trust and depend on the authorities is excessive democracy and sends a bad message to children.

8. Guns owners engaging in self-defense are taking the law into their own hands. This is wrong. Only the Police and Criminals have the right to take the law into their own hands. Guns should be kept out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

9. Children and young people should remain ignorant about guns. Real guns and real gun knowledge dissipate the fantasies created by violent video games and TV. Ignorance, once lost, can never be restored and needs to be protected. Not to mention the lost sales of all the violent movies, TV shows, video games, etc!

10. Guns reduce people's reliance on the Police and Government. This fosters a mistaken belief in "rights". No person has the right to question authority. No person should be less than 100% dependent on authority. This is fundamental to social order. Banning guns will help to establish the Order the authorities want. This is good.
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Now that is farking funny....I think I just spit my pepsi all over my computer.
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Nice. At least Pepsi is just sticky. Mild on the other hand will sour and smell like shit.
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mortar_guy78 wrote:Nice. At least Pepsi is just sticky. Mild on the other hand will sour and smell like shit.

Touche'.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Who here carries a pistol for personal protection?

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Flesh Thorn wrote:I tend to keep one close by, but not necessarily on my person. I do always attempt to maintain situational awareness.

I have been a reserve deputy and reserve police officer.
Between my military and law enforcement training, I
feel comfortable with owning a firearm. I agree with
Ranger Flesh Thorn. I have my firearm close at hand
but do not show it. My rule is that if I am faced with
someone with a gun in their hand; mine comes out.
If a gun is pointed at me; I will fire. :evil:
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Re: Who here carries a pistol for personal protection?

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merlyn wrote:
Flesh Thorn wrote:I tend to keep one close by, but not necessarily on my person. I do always attempt to maintain situational awareness.

I have been a reserve deputy and reserve police officer.
Between my military and law enforcement training, I
feel comfortable with owning a firearm. I agree with
Ranger Flesh Thorn. I have my firearm close at hand
but do not show it. My rule is that if I am faced with
someone with a gun in their hand; mine comes out.
If a gun is pointed at me; I will fire. :evil:

Good 'Rules' to go by. There are many other situations where you might consider that the gun is the
right tool for the job: Bad guy has contact weapon (club, knife, sword, chemical in container--acid) and
disparity of force (really big guy when you are weakened -- from car collision, etc or numbers of bad guys.

I have years of practice drawing my pistol from the holster and using the electronic shot timers to time the
activity so I do know how long it takes to get that first (and subsequent) shots accurately on target (split times
between shots is a known quantity and how long it takes to reload, shot-to-shot). I have found it important to
get off the line of attack as a higher priority in the , for personal combat CCW (4-10 feet), to avoid the fast approaching contact
weapon or the bad guy's gun coming into line. Get off the 'X' by dynamic movement AND draw, my pistol is firing
within by the second step. Getting off of the 'square range' and working the gun fighting techniques force-on-force
is very important to install explosive movement into your 'reactive' gun fighting skills.

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Not all the time... situation/circumstance/destination dictates. Hope I keep guessing correctly!
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