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Strykerguy56 wrote:I swear that wasn't by design either, it just worked out that way haha
Patton...seems to be a trend.


I myself would rather be compared to a contemporary leader. Maybe David Koresh or somebody equally dynamic.
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Silverback wrote: I myself would rather be compared to a contemporary leader. Maybe David Koresh or somebody equally dynamic.
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Silverback wrote:
Strykerguy56 wrote:I swear that wasn't by design either, it just worked out that way haha
Patton...seems to be a trend.


I myself would rather be compared to a contemporary leader. Maybe David Koresh or somebody equally dynamic.

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If you work through the questions backwards, would it come up with Barack Obama? I'm just askin...
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PocketKings wrote:John Galt.
Who is John Galt? :wink:
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PocketKings wrote:John Galt.
Who is John Galt? :wink:
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I know some of you like to write of leaders like Sherman, just to push folk's buttons. This would be akin to someone 100 years from now talking about how great a leader Timothy McVeigh was, because of what he did at Oklahoma City, and all he inspired. However, Rangers, let’s take a historical look at Sherman’s leadership.

At Shiloh Grant and Sherman totally underestimated the ability of Albert Sydney Johnston. Johnston was able to cross miles of swamp land, and arrive behind Sherman’s camp, hitting it early in the morning with massive force. Though it was mainly Grant’s fuckup, Sherman was almost killed in the surprise because the guards he had up were only minimal, and he didn’t have any patrols out in that area. He thought the Confederates would be defensive and not attack. Some historians agree that the only thing that spared both Sherman and Grant was the death of Johnston.

Moving forwards to what made him famous, the march to the sea, Sherman decided to not go after Hood after he captured Atlanta. This was a good tactical decision. Sherman then decided to vanish from the battlefield, and took his whole army, marching from Atlanta to Savannah, destroying an area about 70 miles wide the entire way there. During this march he learned of all the Union prisoners at Andersonville. The Confederate garrison at Andersonville was unable to feed the thousands that had become prisoners and requested that Sherman send soldiers to get the prisoners. Sherman refused, therefore leaving a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy. Why did Sherman ignore the POWs? The city of Savannah was too inviting, and was loaded with goods and plunder. When Sherman did arrive at Savannah the city fathers were able to convince Sherman to not destroy the city in return for tribute and goods. The POWs in Andersonville continued to die, with no relief in site.

OK, so Sherman is pretty good at destruction when there is no organized force that can resist him. However once Sherman entered North Carolina the remnants of Hood’s army, under the command of Johnson, attacked Sherman at Averasboro and Bentonville (about 30 minutes outside of Fort Bragg). Though the Confederates were outnumbered 3 to 1, they stopped Sherman’s army for three days. There is a chance they would have made Sherman’s force retreat back to Fayetteville, if it wasn’t due to one of the worst commanders in the Civil War, Braxton Bragg, arriving and fucking up the Confederate attack (yes, Fort Bragg is named after that huge screwup).

Sherman after the war brought his style of warfare against the plains Indians, which today is looked down upon and is considered by some as atrocities.

So, Rangers, if your style of leadership means that you don’t do any reconnaissance, don’t post guards, do not rescue fallen comrades, annihilate civilian targets and fall back from a force that you outnumber with overwhelming odds, then more power to you.

Me, I think I’ll stick with leaders that have more sound Ranger principles.
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rgrokelley wrote:
PocketKings wrote:John Galt.
Who is John Galt? :wink:
You gotta read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Galt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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George Washington was not only the first president but also an accomplished general. Against daunting odds, Washington launched a guerrilla war that lasted for six years and ultimately drove the British from the colonies. At many points during the conflict, the army was close to disintegrating. But through Washington's force of leadership, the colonists succeeded and he established a model for future American military leaders to follow.

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General Washington was known for his cautious, measured, and highly successful generalship. Understanding that conventional war against the British was useless, he waged a well-planned guerilla campaign. He was also skilled in diplomacy, both as a politician and in his military career. He elicited French help in forcing the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. Also, he deftly negotiated the relations between military and civilian authority. Personally, the first President was reserved. But he won the love and respects of his troops — and nation.
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Silverback wrote:
rgrokelley wrote:
PocketKings wrote:John Galt.
Who is John Galt? :wink:
You gotta read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Galt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You gotta read more. In the book the phrase "who is John Galt" keeps popping up as grafitti, like "Kilroy" in WWII
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William C. Westmoreland

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Born on March 26, 1914 into a wealthy family of textile manufacturers, William Westmoreland led a life of leadership. He graduated from West Point with many awards, including the Pershing Award for leadership. He commanded artillery units in North Africa and Sicily in World War II. During the Korean War, Westmoreland commanded an airborne brigade, and later he commanded the 101st Airborne Division. He later became the youngest major general and the second youngest superintendent (after MacArthur) of West Point. Westmoreland is best known for commanding the war effort in Vietnam.

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General Westmoreland was generally a careful strategist. In Vietnam, he followed a conservative strategy, advocating a war of attrition against the Viet Cong. Westmoreland normally allowed no operations by units smaller than the battalion, and he insisted on strong artillery support. Westmoreland was more a warrior than diplomat. He found it difficult to tread the fine line of public ambivalence to the Vietnam War. Personally, Westmoreland was brave in battle. During World War II, he often scouted ahead of the guns; while doing so in Sicily, his jeep was hit but he escaped injury.
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George S. Patton

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Born in San Gabriel, California, Patton was a descendant of an old Virginia family. He attended West Point, and he placed fifth in the military pentathlon in the 1912 Olympics. He fought well in World War I, leading a tank brigade, and he became an advocate of this new weapon. He became a household name in World War II. In October 1942, Patton directed the amphibious landings near Casablanca and the North African campaign. He also commanded the U.S. Seventh Army in the Allied invasion of Sicily.

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Patton was an innovative commander from the start. He learned how to use the tank – a new weapon – from the French and British during World War I. He considered it the weapon of the future before others appreciated its potential. He liked to lead from the front, and he first distinguished himself on the battlefield by leading a tank brigade in WWI. He was more of a warrior than diplomat. In an infamous incident that almost cost him his career, he verbally abused two sick soldiers, even slapping one. After the German surrender, he argued for political taboos: a combined Allied-German campaign against the Soviet Union and using ex-Nazi intelligence personnel. Personally, he was known for racy language and flamboyance.
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