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Post by Deadmeat »

As the above post states having a RI yelling at you actually sounds fun. I mean who else gets motivated by having someone yell at you. I just kinda figure its tough love :D

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Just relax man youve got a long road ahead of you. Be in the best shape you can when you show up for basic. Even then Basic Training is really good for getting in shape, youl get plenty of food, and even though the runs and Pt will get very lame youl start doing extra PT on your own. Just dont forget this during airborne school and get fat eating candy and anthonys pizza at the px. The PT is a total joke in airborne, buddy up with some guys who also have ranger contracts and do more PT on your own.

Once you go to Ft. Benning and see 3rd Bat retards running around youl realize the standard is very high, and you either rise to that challenge or you quit. Most people quit through fake injuries in my opinion , The physical standards of RIP are not that bad (compared to what they should be). be able to run a quick 2 mile( i was running in the high 12's when i went through) and be able to run a 5 mile in 36 minutes or so. Push upa and sit ups you should be able to pump out in the 80's.

RIP is not dedicated to making Rangers. Its an INDOCTRINATION- you become a ranger in the next year or so AFTER rip , RIP is mainly a filter to weed out people who lack the will or fitness level to be shaped into what is expected of a 75th Ranger. It's a big mind fuck.

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Oh Moy...

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In response to the: is it like in GI Jane, where you ring a bell?

The answer as already stated is no. However to shed a little light...

Back before the NSW (Naval Special Warfare) center moved the BUD/S complex across the strand at Coronado, "Mother" Moy was an instructor at the school. After having moved into the new complex students continued quitting regardless of their new habitat and did the norm: Rapping on the instructors door and yelling DOR (Drop on request) or more simply I quit. "Mother" Moy was pissed. Not because the shithead quit, but merely because the bastard was scraping his new door. So after lashing a bell to a pole and informing the current class of the new procedure the tradition of "ringing" out of BUD/S was established and has been continued ever since.

So to clarify: NO

The bell is a Navy SEAL tradition started by the loving "Mother" Moy. The end, goodnight children.
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Deadmeat -

I would stick to calistenics and running if I were you. Weights won't hurt ya none but push-ups and running will get you alot further. I wasn't much of a long distance runner and it continued to hurt me even in Batt. I wasn't the fastest, I couldn't run the farthest, but I sure as hell never thought about whether or not I was going to make it....I was thinking I'd rather cash out than let one of these fuckers see me quit on em. It's mind over matter - If you don't mind....it don't matter.
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As of right now I am 17 and have another year and 1/3 left in high school before I can join the Army and more specifically the Rangers. Right now I am in normal shape but am working my ass off and will continue too right up to the day before I leave for basic. As RangerTW said He might not have been the fastest or have the most endurance but you, if so motivated to, will make it. I will not quit I am more then dedicated to joining the Rangers. It baffles me that someone wanting to join the Rangers would think about "what happens if I want to quit?" instead of what do I have to do to keep pushing on. I know this site is pretty much for Rangers and those who would like to share their experiences, I try to listen here at these forums more than I speak but I had to get that out.

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Ranger Plavney, I know I can join at 17 but I am only in 11th grade at the moment, by the time I graduate high school I will be 18, my birthday is on March 5th. If I could join right now I wouldn't hesitate for a second.

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I think what Ranger Plavney is trying to tell you there is that you can join and just be a DEP'r (delayed entry program). Since you're a junior I guess the earliest you could sign up would be this summer. You can just wait of course, but being in DEP will help you get your shit together before you leave for basic. We do some PT, but it mostly helps you learn stuff like drill and ceremony, general orders and other basics that you will have to learn. Plus, if you sign up early you're more likely to get the job you want and an earlier ship date after graduation. I signed up to leave ASAP after graduation and got pretty close...20 days after I graduate, I leave.

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wannabehooah, I talked to the recruiter and he says as of July I could join DEP because I would officially be a senior in high school. The recruiter told me to call him in a few days as soon as April comes and I could setup a date to take the ASVAB and a few other things. What is involved in DEP exactly (I didn't talk to the recruiter for very long) in terms of the schedule how many days a week it is and so on? I only ask because I work at a farmers market and I am going to be working a hell of alot of hours starting in about a week and going until October. How important is DEP, I know that it would definately help me with drill and such to get an early start but would I be learning anything I wouldn't in basic? I already work out (curls, bench, benching incline) I just started running since summer, finally starting to warm up around here!

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GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER DEADMEAT

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BASIC AND AIT ARE TOO EASY NOW, AND AIRBORNE SCHOOL ISNT MUCH, EITHER. IF YOU MAKE IT TO RIP, YOU BETTER HOLD ON, BECAUSE THOSE INSTRUCTORS WILL EAT YOUR LUNCH.
AFTER THAT, IN BATT, IF ANYONE THINKS Y0U DONT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES, THEY WILL MAKE YOU SO MISERABLE YOU'LL WANT TO QUIT.

ALSO, DONT GO IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE COMBAT. IN '89 WE HAD A FEW OF THOSE SORRY FUCKERS. WHEN IT WAS TIME TO GO TO PANAMA, THEY STARTED COMING UP WITH EXCUSES.

REMEMBER, MOST OF THE U.S.'S COMBAT SINCE VIETNAM HAS INVOLVED THE RANGERS.
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Post by wannabehooah »

DEP is kinda important. It's stuff you will learn in basic and you could probably learn most of it on your own, but it's helpful. They also pound all the simple things into you so you don't screw up in basic. We have something goin on once a month with the whole group and I meet with my recruiter once a week to go over stuff like land nav. I actually like going, it's motivating, especially the days we do PT (although it is slack). Running in formation is good stuff, plus you get to watch the slackers puke their guts out.

It's up to you, but if you're serious about this I would join ASAP and cram in as much knowledge as possible before you leave. Don't bother with the bench presses. Stick to push-ups, sit-ups, flutter kicks, pull-ups, and running. I do some weight lifting to work my shoulders, back and forearms, but you don't really need to do much on the weights.

Just make sure you get what you want in your contract and then work your ass off to make sure you're ready when you get your shot.

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Post by Yukk »

Hello, i just registered to this forum and posted a questions. I just have something to add if I may.
7 months if enough for anything, it all depends on how bad you want it. Take me for example, when i enlisted in DEP i was 5'9 190lbs, i couldnt complete 2 freaking miles, im not even talking about making it on time. I really want to succeed in the military and even though i cannot get a RIP in my contract, i posted why in the other thread i worked my ass off to get in shape. I ship July 2nd and been in DEP since july 15th 2002, right now its May so thats been 10 months, but in these 10 montsh i was able to get to 167lbs, i took my APFT to get promoted and i was able to do 90 push ups in 2 min, 80 sit ups (was doing them slow, thats what messed me up) and i ran 2 miles in 12 mins. Keep in mind 10 months before i couldn't even complete 2 miles, im not talking about making them on time, i couldn't do push ups or sit ups, now i run 7 miles EVERYDAY (unless my legs really hurt, i rest). Its all about how bad you want it man, me personally i would kill for a RIP in my contract but there is no freaking way i can get it at this moment but i will try and keep busting my ass in the army, maybe ill get lucky. Im hoping to improve my results even more before i ship to basic on july 2nd. Also remember whenever you are tired and don't feel like running or just being lazy THAT is the time to do it because it really helps to train your mind, since most running is mental.
ALl this comes from a guy who couldn't even come close to meeting a freaking min req 10 months ago. I also learned to NEVER EVER freaking quit, because my recruiter didn't really gave a damn about me or if i succeed, he just wanted to make sure i can ship there.

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Yukk, can you please explain to me what you mean by taking the APFT to get promoted? Also, did you get it?

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Post by Yukk »

Well i live in Brooklyn, here they give you a sheet with different tasks, if you complete it before you go to basic then you go in as E2. That sheet includes ranks, APFT, land navigation, first aide, general orders and basically stuff like that.
I did everything except ranks which are pretty easy, so i should get promoted before i go.

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Yukk-

Don't lose an ounce of that motivation. Ranger Bat is all about motivation and discipline. Try not to become discouraged with your current security problem. If you out-perform your peers in your unit, continue to set challenging goals and attain them, and remain highly motivated, I feel certain that after your citizenship goes through, you will have little to stand in the way of you becoming a Ranger. As far as the technicalities go, Ranger S. Plavney is probably the most qualified person on this board to answer your questions. Good luck and keep driving on!

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Post by metal66272 »

Or get one of your buddies to join. After a referral and completing all those DEP tasks, I am an E-3 as of now and I ship in two weeks.

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