Tips for Airborne

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GTP wrote:When did they stop running in boots? I went thru Jump School in 1971 so I guess I should be happy we had boots and not moccasins. Just curious.
Actually I can give you a pretty accurate answer on this. It was March of 83. My class was the last class to do PT in boots at Jump School. The class motto was "Last in Leather". Moved on to RS afterwards and wore jungle boots which felt like running shoes compared to the old leather boots.
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ZoneIV wrote:
GTP wrote:When did they stop running in boots? I went thru Jump School in 1971 so I guess I should be happy we had boots and not moccasins. Just curious.
Actually I can give you a pretty accurate answer on this. It was March of 83. My class was the last class to do PT in boots at Jump School. The class motto was "Last in Leather". Moved on to RS afterwards and wore jungle boots which felt like running shoes compared to the old leather boots.
Thanks. I had been out of the service over two years by then. Different times.
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ZoneIV wrote:
GTP wrote:When did they stop running in boots? I went thru Jump School in 1971 so I guess I should be happy we had boots and not moccasins. Just curious.
Actually I can give you a pretty accurate answer on this. It was March of 83. My class was the last class to do PT in boots at Jump School. The class motto was "Last in Leather". Moved on to RS afterwards and wore jungle boots which felt like running shoes compared to the old leather boots.
WHAAAAT???? Jungle boots would get you kicked off the manifest no questions asked. Leather boots, esp. Corcorans, were mandatory for jumps. Of course, this was in 1968 and 1969, when the Army was still MEN and girls stayed in the WAC.
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Jump school was a fucking joke. It was by far one of the easiest things I have ever done in my life. After basic I drank constantly, smoked like a chimney, and ate whatever nasty fast food I could get my hands on and I still thought it was ajoke. Inserts? Carbs? Tips and strategies? I was so hung over I don't even remember half of jump school.

Lefty, things are certainly different. When I was coming up, the Corcoran jump boots were for wear in Class As only. Legs were the ones wearing jump boots in their BDUs. Rangers and Paratroopers wore jungle boots. Times change.
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Lefty wrote:WHAAAAT???? Jungle boots would get you kicked off the manifest no questions asked. Leather boots, esp. Corcorans, were mandatory for jumps. Of course, this was in 1968 and 1969, when the Army was still MEN and girls stayed in the WAC.
Now Now Lefty, don't have a stroke... :lol: We weren't allowed to wear Jungle boots in jump school. It would have been nice to be able to wear them during PT, etc. as oppose to the old leather leg boots but they weren't allowed. I wore Jungle Boots in RS however. When it came to Cochrans, I only put those on when I needed to look purty since I kept them all spit shined and crap. :lol: Never considered wearing them in Jump School. I would think you would get a rash of crap from the Blackhats if you attempted to wear "jump boots"... :lol: As I previously stated however, I was in the last class that did PT in boots. After that, they wore running shoes.
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ZoneIV wrote:
Lefty wrote:WHAAAAT???? Jungle boots would get you kicked off the manifest no questions asked. Leather boots, esp. Corcorans, were mandatory for jumps. Of course, this was in 1968 and 1969, when the Army was still MEN and girls stayed in the WAC.
Now Now Lefty, don't have a stroke... :lol: We weren't allowed to wear Jungle boots in jump school. It would have been nice to be able to wear them during PT, etc. as oppose to the old leather leg boots but they weren't allowed. I wore Jungle Boots in RS however. When it came to Cochrans, I only put those on when I needed to look purty since I kept them all spit shined and crap. :lol: Never considered wearing them in Jump School. I would think you would get a rash of crap from the Blackhats if you attempted to wear "jump boots"... :lol: As I previously stated however, I was in the last class that did PT in boots. After that, they wore running shoes.
I shit you not - altho jungle boots were authorized and considered way cool in 6th SFG back then, the NCOs would literally conduct inspections during pre-jump briefings to eject anyone wearing jungle boots for the jump.
During jump school spit shined Corcorans were mandatory, alternate over laced and under laced daily. I had two pair, one overlaced and one underlaced, and spit shined the appropriate pair each nite for the next morning's inspection. BTW, we also had the full brass belt buckle that had to be Brassoed every day. Pushed away Georgia for all those teeny bits of Brasso I couldn't quite get out of the inside of the damn buckle.
And GRITS be praised, we were allowed to wear jungle boots in RS. Back then, however, jungle boots were hard to find stateside, and many of my RS classmates suffered in leather boots. They would cut holes in sides and backs to let water out.
And when my son went thru OSUT at Ft. Sill in 2000, I nearly DID have a stroke when I saw all these trainees wearing running shoes.
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Lefty wrote:During jump school spit shined Corcorans were mandatory, alternate over laced and under laced daily. I had two pair, one overlaced and one underlaced, and spit shined the appropriate pair each nite for the next morning's inspection.
We had the spit shine requirement and the morning inspection but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn the alternate lacing is the epitomy of "mouse mouse". We didn't have that requirement.
Lefty wrote:We also had the full brass belt buckle that had to be Brassoed every day. Pushed away Georgia for all those teeny bits of Brasso I couldn't quite get out of the inside of the damn buckle.
We we didn't have brass buckle thing that we had to deal with but you better not had any brass peaking through the black painted brass buckles we wore or you will be sent to the gig pit. That said, you will not get absolutely no sympathy about the brasso thing from me. I had 4 years of shining tons of brass (to include brass belt buckles worn daily) at the little college I went to. You become an expert in brass matters and learn expediant ways to deal with brass. I could have shown you a little trick about the buckle brasso remnants thing that would have kept you from pushing. :lol:
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600, understandably your post was made with good intentions as another Ranger mentioned, we're just a bunch of crotchety old motherfuckers that had to do things the "easy" way, meaning grab yer balls and just do it, or pack up and drag. No tips, no mentors (except our fathers), no special diets (except pizza, beer and Cope), and feet and legs that ached everyday. We just did it.

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11. Find a 2LT who didn't make it through Ranger School and punch him in the face...
Fuck that. Make it an Infantry CPT...there are plenty of those still kicking around...
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