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I am looking to get my daughter into Wing Tsung, but I am looking for more information on it. Anyone here know any thing about this style of fighting/defense?
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I thought you were talking about some kind of fast food from China.
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Jim wrote:I thought you were talking about some kind of fast food from China.
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My team, as well as a number of other various folks I knew at Bragg studied this style. I didn't get all that into it personally, but what I did learn is that it isn't meant to be artful and Zenful and all that, it is meant to bring a lot of pain to those who oppose you. It is also painful to learn. I don't have any experience with other styles to compare, but I was very impressed with what I learned and the skills I gained in a very short amount of time, and if I was going to seriously consider martial arts as a backup weapon, this would be the one I'd choose.

If you were thinking of martial arts for your daughter to build self-confidence, fitness, and inner peace, this probably isn't the style you'd want to introduce her to; but if you want your girl to be a hard as nails bad ass, this would suit your purpose.
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Lunch wrote:... if you want your girl to be a hard as nails bad ass, this would suit your purpose.
With the way this country is going, that may not be a bad idea.
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Don't know a lot about that style. They are all pretty good, I suppose. That is to say, a dude who has studied Tai Chi for 20 years is not to be trifled with any more than someone who has studied Tae Kwon Do for the same length. I know it is on the harder end of the spectrum.

I would say the most important thing would be to find a studio and sifu that she likes, as there are great differences in how a particular style is taught, depending upon the instructor. Perfect example: I have a friend who teaches Aikido (I believe he is the equivalent of third degree black-belt) He was taking advanced classes at another studio for the summer, and the lead instructor was really hard core. So much so, that my friend stopped going, saying that "He's gonna get someone hurt one of these days..." I know of another cat who left and started his own studio after seeing the same lead instructor open-hand bitch slap a student for doing something wrong.

In the long and short of it.. Shop around. I'm sure in San Antonio you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a decent studio.
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Wing Chun (with a good instructor), is probably one of the better "hard", striking arts for women. The legend of it's founding was that it originally developed for a particular woman who had to defend her village. While I haven't practiced it myself, from what I've seen of it, there's more emphasis on speed and flow, than compared to, say, Hung Gar (which I have practiced) which is all about hard blocks and strikes. I would not recommend Hung Gar for women: the women in my class certainly tried, but, with a solitary exception, genuinely didn't have a high enough upper body mass ratio to make it be effective.

More recently, I have been practicing Aikido (I'm about 18 months in), which is a grappling art that is almost entirely finesse-based. From what I've seen so far in Aikido, I would highly recommend it for women, as raw strength isn't required.

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Wing Chun is incredible at teaching Center-Line importance, and emphasizes hitting your opponent in the groin to sternum to chin to nose area. The kicks are elaborate and are too flashy and vulnerable for a street fight, but the elbow and palm strikes would destroy the average mugger.

As is my sad tendency, I am theoretically an expert in Martial Arts, Military tactics, espionage and UW. However, reading many textbooks on the subjects has not always translated into physical practice. To be fair, I can't chant Islamic prayer with a guy and then kill him when I find out his Imam's name, so some UW and espionage type stuff is live and learn
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CloakAndDagger wrote:Wing Chun (with a good instructor), is probably one of the better "hard", striking arts for women. The legend of it's founding was that it originally developed for a particular woman who had to defend her village. While I haven't practiced it myself, from what I've seen of it, there's more emphasis on speed and flow, than compared to, say, Hung Gar (which I have practiced) which is all about hard blocks and strikes. I would not recommend Hung Gar for women: the women in my class certainly tried, but, with a solitary exception, genuinely didn't have a high enough upper body mass ratio to make it be effective.

More recently, I have been practicing Aikido (I'm about 18 months in), which is a grappling art that is almost entirely finesse-based. From what I've seen so far in Aikido, I would highly recommend it for women, as raw strength isn't required.
Aikido is spectacular for both aggression maneuvering and counter-attack tactics. I have read 5 Aikido textbooks and loved them, but I was practicing Krav Maga at the time so I haven't tried any of the moves I read about.
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Usssocom303 wrote:(nothing of importance)
It's been awhile since I've logged in, but I just noticed this asshat somehow had time to sent me a PM (in connection with my previous post) before getting banned. Looks like I missed all the fun, and wouldn't even have had time to microwave popcorn, even if I had been online at the time. New record?

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CloakAndDagger wrote:
Usssocom303 wrote:(nothing of importance)
It's been awhile since I've logged in, but I just noticed this asshat somehow had time to sent me a PM (in connection with my previous post) before getting banned. Looks like I missed all the fun, and wouldn't even have had time to microwave popcorn, even if I had been online at the time. New record?
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Well, my daughter is older, but unfortunately she is a bit too young for Wing Chun.

I looked into a Wing Chun Academy here in San Antonio. The Sifu there do not train kids, at least not 11 year olds.

I wanted my son, who is now 14 years old, to train, but he’s doing football, and he’s doing good. We’ll see after football season.

So, I figured, what the heck, I’ll train in it.

I am impressed.

The one thing that got me interested into Wing Chun was the line of history. I’ve been to other martial art schools but I don’t remember ever hearing or having the students learn the history of that style or fighting system.

Grandmaster Leung Ting came to the academy last month. He was trained under Greatgrandmaster Yip Man. He told us some of his history. I thought that was great. To hear, not read, his history.

Yes, it’s hard training especially on the legs, and doing reactions...well, I’m still working on those. My brain don’t think (or in Wing Chun’s case, feel) that fast, but I just started, and I like it.

We always go back to basics doing Siu Nim Tao (Sifu, and his technicians always stress the importance of this form), and then right into Chum Kiu (those are the only forms I learned so far).

Even though Wing Chun was developed by a female, I don’t see many. There are none in my academy, but there were a handful there at the seminar with Grandmaster Leung Ting.


But still, I see why this system would be great for my daughter and son.
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