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I did a google search for the thinnest double stack 9MM and the Kel-Tec P11 is what popped up. Just under 1" wider it carries 10 + 1. Most reviews are good with a couple of bad ones. Anyone know anything about this weapon. They sale for under $300.0, I've found one for $230.00, I'm thinking about buying it because of the ease of concealing with the ability to carry more rounds. I read you can purchase a 13 round mag for it also.
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Keltec has some innovative ideas and curious weapons out there, from what I've heard, read and seen it is not something I'd trust my life to as an EDC weapon.

They are progressively getting better over the years but they're still very cheaply made weapons which is why they are so inexpensive.

Range gun/fun gun, sure if you have extra money laying around, something to stake my safety or my families on, no.
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I have two Kel-Tecs; a PMR30 .22Mag Semi-auto pistol and the KSG shotgun. Both have worked flawlessly but I consider both to be fun guns. I keep 2 Mossberg 500 handy; one upstairs and one down for home protection.

I carry a Springfield XD Mod2 .45 with 9 round magazine in my front right pocket and two 13 round magazines in my left front pocket. With my middle I find pocket carry to be the best setup for me. When I buy pants the front pocket size is one measurement I always check. Here is a link to the holster I use, it will fit with any pocket gun you can carry. It does definitely keep it in the proper position in the pocket. http://www.swaprigholsters.com/CargoPac ... s/1836.htm I know it claims to be for cargo pockets but it fits well in my every day trousers and jeans. When I am driving the holster fits nicely between my seat and center console.
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I have a P11, its a decent pocket gun but it has a heavy trigger that is extremely long. That is really the only drawback to the weapon.

To the price, I spent $240.00 for mine brand new.


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I carry a S&W Bodyguard everywhere I go and most places I also have my Springfield 1911. I've been looking for a lighter weight 9mm to carry in place of the 1911, but I'm bothered by a 9mm that only has 7 to 8 round mag. Yeah I know, my 1911 only has 8 rounds, but with the rounds I'm shooting it'll cut em in two. They have a S&W M&P Shield for sale at the Ft Lewis PX for $360.00 and I was going to buy it, but I just went through a 39 state conceal carry class and they talked about the Kel-Tec P11 as a good conceal carry weapon. I went home and googled it and saw that it is just under 1 inch thick and carries 10 + 1 of +p 9mm, you can also buy an extended mag for it. That's quite a bit of fire power for a little pocket pistol.
As a side note, I just picked up a 10 round extended mag, at the PX, for my 1911. I only bought 1 so far because I wanted to shoot it first to make sure it would load ok.
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What make are the mags you run in the 1911? I run Chip McCormick 10 round mags in mine for matches, and haven't had any issues with them. The follower matters - the newer ones come with a "shooting star" follower, which is better than the older ones IMO. I know some of the other single stackers run Tripp Research mags, using the 40 mags rather than 45. They can get 9 rounds in those as opposed to 8.

Have you considered the XD-S 45? A bit more pricey than the Kel-Tecs, but you are getting a Springfield. There are some decent after market triggers that bring it down to about 4.5-5#.
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The one I bought is Chip McCormick, nice to know it will work. I've never had a problem with their mags in the past, but I've never seen the 10 rd before. I was flip flopping between the XDS and the Shield and had decided on the Shield until I heard about the Kel-Tec, I just wanted to see one before I purchased something else. I'm leaning more toward a 9mm due to ammo prices. I can buy a box of 9mm rounds for practice for $11 to $15 and hornady critical defense for about $20. .45s are about twice that much. Even my my .380 cost about the same as my .45. I've gotten back into shooting more recently and it cost a whole lot less when I take my 9mms.
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Might want to check out the S&W M&P Shield. It's thin and lightweight. I paid $350 for mine, which is a .40.

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Glock 19 w/15 round 9mm mag or Glock 43 single stack 9mm with mag extension for better grip.

Kahr Arms PM9 is also a nice well built single stack 9mm.
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Soooooo here's the story so far. I was introduced to the SCCY CPX-1 from a friend at work. It is only 1" wide, narrower than my 1911 and a whole lot lighter, and carries 10+1 in a double stack mag. I found 1 at Mary's Pistols in Tacoma. It comes with a life time warranty on the weapon itself. No matter who owns it, if it breaks, they will fix it. I spent $260 on Monday, on Tuesday I took about 300 rounds of 9mm, 115 gr ball ammo, and went to The Marksman in Puyallup to test it out. I had fired 2 boxes of ammo, 100 rds, through it and was impressed with how it felt and shot. The shot groups were staying pretty tight out to 20 feet, and I was still on target, just wider at 30', over all I was feeling pretty good about my purchase. I opened up the 3rd box of ammo, loaded my 2 10 rd mags and proceeded to fire. I had my first failure to feed about half way through the first mag, when I went to assist the slide forward, I realized the recoil spring guide rod was hanging out of the front of the weapon. I unloaded it, took it back to Mary's Pistols were their armorer couldn't even get the weapon apart, due to the recoil spring being completely bound up inside. They were exteamly apologetic and took the weapon back and sent it back to SCCY Industry in Florida. At least it has a warranty. :roll: I've learned my lesson, I never buy a weapon on sight and feel alone. I always find one that I want and then go home and do some thorough checking before I purchase. I just liked the way it felt in my hands and the DAO trigger pull was nice and steady.

Cams/mortar_guy78: My first choice was the Shield, I own 2 other S & Ws and they are both really good, reliable guns. I just started looking for something thin in a double stack 10 rd+ mag. I've got a Glock 26, buts it's still pretty thick. I liked the Kahr and the Glock 43, but I was looking for something with more rounds. I still may end up buying the Shield after all of this. Let's see how the CPX-1 performs after I get it back and put a few 100 rds through it.
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Jesus. Lucky it didn't fire and explode in your hands. I'll have to look up that weapon out of curiosity, never even heard of it.

Ever think about the FN 5.7? If I remember correctly it may be a short hair thinner than the 1911, definitely lighter, and has a 20rd mag of 5.7 armor piercing ammo. It's pretty sweet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_5.7%C3%9728mm

I'd love to find one of these around here for its actual price, those that are for sale in MA are generally well over $1K because they're not allowed to import anymore into the state.
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I just got my SCCY-CPX-1 back from the factory yesterday and today I hope to take it to the range and put about 300-400 rounds through it, just to make sure it will fire when I want it to.
Cams: They have an FN 5.7 for sale right now at the Ft Lewis PX gun counter and one at the McCord BX gun counter. They want $1190.00 for it. I talked to an NCO with the 2nd ID who owns one and he said at 100 meter it has almost no drop. He also said you wouldn't want to shoot it in a crowd because it will go right through anyone it hits. Problem is the ammo is extremely expensive. They have a 15% off ammo sale right now and he bought over $500.00 worth of ammo because it is usually so expensive. I will admit it is a tempting purchase, now I just need to save up the money and convince my wife I need it. :roll:
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I took my SCCY CPX-1 to the range yesterday and fired over 300 rounds with out a problem. I fired several different kind of ball ammo and three different hollow points. It had a problem feeding the Federal Premium HST rounds, they hang up on the lip when the slide moves forward, but my 1911 won't feed any of the hollow point rounds except for the Hornady Critical Defense rounds, so I'm not concerned with that. It is pretty accurate out to 21 feet, by 25 feet they're starting to rise and scatter and at 30 feet they're still on target, but scattered and several inches higher. Can someone explain why the rounds seem to impact several inches higher out past 25 feet. If I had to do it again I would probably purchase the CPX-2 (no thumb safety) instead of the CPX-1, because on the CPX-1 there is a lip just below the thumb safety that begins to bite into your thumb after a few hundred rounds. Overall I'm happy with my purchase. At 15 oz and 1 inch wide it is extremely easy to conceal. It comes with 2 10 round mags and I bought 3 extras, I usually carry 2 extra mags on me, so that gives me 31 rounds of 9 mm hollow points if I need it. Not bad for $260.00.
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