When was this Ranger EvilCouch?EvilCouch wrote:
But, SFC Larsen was a only purple belt at the time he was training me, and he could knock the shit out of me every time I tried to take him.
I normally wouldn't post in this area of the forums, but as a former student of Judo, I wanted to toss in my two cents on this matter.EvilCouch wrote:Personally, I think that Judo is a horrible martial art to learn. Until Judo players start getting into the world-class skill range, they're relatively skill-less outside of a tatami square.
Ranger Creeping Death has edited my post because I have poor reading comprehension skills and am a little slow on the uptake. After repeated warnings, I was unable to get it through my empty, although thick, skull that the Rangers here don't give a flying fuck how smart I think I am, or how much I think I know about martial arts, and they have even less tolerance of my piss poor, spoiled little kid who needs his ass beat attitude. And finally, he has helped me see, in a way that even the most inept amoung us can understand, that the Rangers here will not EVER tolerate disrespect at any level, for any reason, at any time, by a whiny little Canuck fucktard like me.Scuba Wino wrote:God damned your a thick headed fucking moron. Jesus H. Fucking Christ, sweet mother Mary. Are you really that much of a fucking idiot that you can't listen and learn.MORIBUND88 wrote:EvilCouch, all one has to do is look at the world. Cheers
You've already shit on the carpet once, we cleaned it and sprayed and let you stay in the house, and now you shit on the carpet again.
You're a disrespectful little fucking ass clown tht doesn't know fucking shit.
You, kind sir need you shut the fuck up and read before you post anymore.
It's Ranger Evil Couch and Ranger so and so to you. You have been warned about this MANY many times and you refuse to learn it.
I just happen to have a lot of pent up energy for having to be so nice for the last few months. Now you're making it hard on me to stay nice.
Strike three, you need to go!
And knock off the fucking "Cheers" thing, you're Canadian....I don't walk around saying fucking "Eh!"
What a toilet scar.....MORIBUND88 wrote: Ranger Scuba Wino...fuck you, you are proving nothing more than the fact that you are a douche bag, probably one you pulled from your mom or little sister.
I can say cheers all I want because it is a greeting, universally, holy fuck dude, pull your head from your ass. At least I am not mimicing the lazy American "Huh" that comes out of many of your mouths to end a sentence.
Whoever keeps saying fuck france, I don't know how that is meant to offend, I couldn't give a flying fuck about France, it's not my back yard.
CHEERS
MORIBUND88 wrote:Ranger Scuba Wino...fuck you, you are proving nothing more than the fact that you are a douche bag, probably one you pulled from your mom or little sister.Scuba Wino wrote:God damned your a thick headed fucking moron. Jesus H. Fucking Christ, sweet mother Mary. Are you really that much of a fucking idiot that you can't listen and learn.MORIBUND88 wrote:EvilCouch, all one has to do is look at the world. Cheers
You've already shit on the carpet once, we cleaned it and sprayed and let you stay in the house, and now you shit on the carpet again.
You're a disrespectful little fucking ass clown tht doesn't know fucking shit.
You, kind sir need you shut the fuck up and read before you post anymore.
It's Ranger Evil Couch and Ranger so and so to you. You have been warned about this MANY many times and you refuse to learn it.
I just happen to have a lot of pent up energy for having to be so nice for the last few months. Now you're making it hard on me to stay nice.
Strike three, you need to go!
And knock off the fucking "Cheers" thing, you're Canadian....I don't walk around saying fucking "Eh!"
I can say cheers all I want because it is a greeting, universally, holy fuck dude, pull your head from your ass. At least I am not mimicing the lazy American "Huh" that comes out of many of your mouths to end a sentence.
Whoever keeps saying fuck france, I don't know how that is meant to offend, I couldn't give a flying fuck about France, it's not my back yard.
CHEERS
Still haven't figured it out, have you fuckstain.MORIBUND88 wrote:Ranger Scuba Wino...fuck you, you are proving nothing more than the fact that you are a douche bag, probably one you pulled from your mom or little sister.Scuba Wino wrote:God damned your a thick headed fucking moron. Jesus H. Fucking Christ, sweet mother Mary. Are you really that much of a fucking idiot that you can't listen and learn.MORIBUND88 wrote:EvilCouch, all one has to do is look at the world. Cheers
You've already shit on the carpet once, we cleaned it and sprayed and let you stay in the house, and now you shit on the carpet again.
You're a disrespectful little fucking ass clown tht doesn't know fucking shit.
You, kind sir need you shut the fuck up and read before you post anymore.
It's Ranger Evil Couch and Ranger so and so to you. You have been warned about this MANY many times and you refuse to learn it.
I just happen to have a lot of pent up energy for having to be so nice for the last few months. Now you're making it hard on me to stay nice.
Strike three, you need to go!
And knock off the fucking "Cheers" thing, you're Canadian....I don't walk around saying fucking "Eh!"
I can say cheers all I want because it is a greeting, universally, holy fuck dude, pull your head from your ass. At least I am not mimicing the lazy American "Huh" that comes out of many of your mouths to end a sentence.
Whoever keeps saying fuck france, I don't know how that is meant to offend, I couldn't give a flying fuck about France, it's not my back yard.
CHEERS
Yep, you sound like a future butter bar.........Useaspoon wrote:Hello Rangers (and all others reading),
It warms my heart to see a more up to date combatives course being taught to todays soldiers. Overall I believe the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu system to be one of the absolute best systems availible. That is not to say it is unbeatable or holds all the answers. But if I had to take someone who could only spend 1 month training and teach them one system it would be Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I think you are going to get the best bang for your buck.
In my opinion to be more well rounded you need 4 types of training: Weapons, Striking, Takedowns, Grappling.
To each his own in whatever works for them in whatever combination they prefer. But leaving any one of those types of training out of your curriculum is weakness.
I understand that the US Army has to have a method to teach large numbers of soldiers an effective method that is both efficient and applicable. It seems that the combatives course teaches the fundamental basics of ground grappling. Although it has inherent limitations it is certainly better than trying to teach soldiers some idiotic and unrealistic system like Tae Kwon Do - sorry, no jumping kicks with 60lbs of gear on. And it is more efficient than teaching a system that requires a lot of time to be proficient in - like boxing. Sure you can teach good punching mechanics, but it will be many months or years before someone is going to be proficient enough to use it as a primary fighting style. In the limited amount of time you have, and the sheer volume of soldiers you have to teach grappling is definately viable.
The other thing is the ability in which you can actually practice when you learn. I mean that you can practice with 100% full out effort against a 100% full out resisting opponent with relative safety. The downfall of many martial arts is they fall into a 'too deadly to practice' rhetoric - and begin believing thier own bullshit since they can't actually 'test' it against a live and resisting opponent. This is where much of the nose-bone-to-the-brain, and tearing-out-ribs-with-bare-hands kind of crap that gets passed down by one brainwashed master to the next. That is the thing with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. If it doesn't work you will immediately know it. The bullshit, rhetoric, and pedantic arguments are removed.
I know all of the arguments against grappling. I have heard all the crap like eye gouges, bites, etc. Everyone can bite. I know that you 'shouldnt' go to the ground because you cant get away - yeah - you should have gotten away before you got taken down. You still need to know how to deal with it. Yes, yes, yes. Contextually everyone might have a point. When fighting multiple opponents across fields of broken glass and lava against AIDS infected Haitians BJJ is a bad choice.
THE POINT IS THAT GRAPPLING ISN'T YOUR CHOICE. YOUR CHOICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A ROUND BETWEEN YOUR OPPONENTS EYES AT @200YDS OR AN E-TOOL TO THE SKULL. GRAPPLING IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO FIGHT, NOT WHERE YOU WANTED TO FIGHT. WHETHER YOU GOT TAKEN DOWN, KNOCKED DOWN, OR WHATEVER - many of the skills you will need to endure or overcome your opponent will be found in BJJ.
Let me summarize by saying I understand the neccessity of actually FIGHTING with this stuff is remote. And I understand the inherent limitations of the system by its lack of weapons, striking, and only weak takedowns. But in terms of bang for your buck it is the best thing you have got.
Oh well you snooze you lose, I hate missin out on a feedin frenzy though.It was around the mid 2001 to early 2003 time frame.RBL_M1A2Tanker wrote:When was this Ranger EvilCouch?EvilCouch wrote:
But, SFC Larsen was a only purple belt at the time he was training me, and he could knock the shit out of me every time I tried to take him.
Just curious, but has anyone asked Sergeant Larsen to come to the forum?
Well, Judo by itself CAN be an effective fighting style. The problem is that the majority of the techniques designed to be used in a real fight aren't taught until the black-belt level and even then, most Judo players now don't focus on those aspects, but instead focus on the sport.rum_snuggles wrote:I normally wouldn't post in this area of the forums, but as a former student of Judo, I wanted to toss in my two cents on this matter.EvilCouch wrote:Personally, I think that Judo is a horrible martial art to learn. Until Judo players start getting into the world-class skill range, they're relatively skill-less outside of a tatami square.
Ranger EvilCouch, you're correct. Judo, although (in my opinion) very easy to learn, serves very little purpose outside of the square. I studied at a school in Altoona 'til I received my green belt, and in comparison to some of the other martial arts I've touched on in my life (Tang Soo Do, Shotokan), it is very...friendly, I guess is about the right word. Very little of what I learned is going to be applicable to a close-quarters fight. Sure, I can toss people around a bit, and in a grapple I'll be able to adequately defend myself, but I've always preferred joint manipulation and aggressive speed to getting on the ground and scrambling for a choke-hold or something...
It's been fun to use in other places, however.
I noticed that a lot of the UFC fighters have experience with Judo, but combine it with other arts in order to actually be effective, so it does seem to have its place in world-class arenas. One of the better Couture/Liddell matches involved a lot of grappling.
