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Re: Is the 2012 Election Rigged?

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The "serious" statement was because Ron Paul has about as much chance of winning the White House as I do. It doesn't matter how much many he has raised through small donations, it will not stop the juggernaut of cash that both Obama and Romney will toss into this election. Cash does work. All you have to do is look at Santorum vs Romney. Santorum spent a fraction of the money on his campaign that Romney did, and to his credit, gathered quite a few delegates with that little bit of money. However Romney's money ended up defeating Santorum. Money = advertising. Advertising = votes. Depending on the source, Ron Paul has less than 50 million raised so far. Romney's goal is to raise 800 million. Some say that he might get a trillion. This will be the most expensive campaign in American history.

Though some of Ron Paul's domestic policies are great, his foreign policies are downright dangerous. True, he wants Congress to declare war... no problem with that, but it is also true that he does not think a nuclear armed Iran would be a threat.

Seriously?

Ron Paul also wants to cut off all support for Israel. It has been so vehement that many think he is anti-semitic. If we don't support Israel, they will cease to exist in a blood bath that will make Hitler look like Peewee Herman.

Ron Paul does want to pull all the troops back, from everywhere. This is known as isolationism. Look it up in history and tell me if you think that it worked for us before. Nature abhors a vacuum. If we are no longer the leading super power in the world, guiding its direction, then some other power will be. Who would you want that to be? China? Russia? The Islamic Caliphate?

I would much prefer it to be us.
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Re: Is the 2012 Election Rigged?

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Ranger rgrokelley Romney and obamas #1 donor is goldman sachs. Ben Bernanke was a former head of goldman sachs now he's head of the federal reserve. Ron Paul doesn't have a isolationist foreign policy, he has a non-interventionist foreign policy and he said he doesnt want iran to have a nuke but he also doesn't want to go to war with them. All the other candidates said they don't want iran to have a nuke and that they'd bomb the living hell outta them, which'd kill innocent people. Lastly Israel said they can defend themselves.
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TC204 wrote:
rgrokelley wrote:

Ron Paul does want to pull all the troops back, from everywhere. This is known as isolationism. Look it up in history and tell me if you think that it worked for us before. Nature abhors a vacuum. If we are no longer the leading super power in the world, guiding its direction, then some other power will be. Who would you want that to be? China? Russia? The Islamic Caliphate?

I would much prefer it to be us.
Part of the reason we're hated so much is because we've been "guiding the worlds direction" whether some nations like it or not. We're a guiding light to fulfill agendas (oil, allies, trade etc) not because we're the jolly old nice guy. You're right about China and Russia wanting to do the same, I'm just saying no one should be doing it. Let countries be what they want to be, but if they threaten you, squash them.
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Look it up in history and tell me if you think that it worked for us before.
We tried the"Walk softly and carry a big stick approach". Doesn't work. We pull out, they pull in. Simple as that. What made this nation great and the ONLY thing that will keep us great is to project our power world wide, which is why our Navy is the biggest branch of our armed services, has the biggest budget and at the end of the day keeps us all safe at night.
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In the end, I am essentially a historian.

We have been there, done that with "non-intervention" or whatever the buzz word is now.

Just read what happened before and you can see that it doesn't end well for us.
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I just ask myself what if the Roman Empire had been isolationist ?
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Flesh Thorn wrote:I just ask myself what if the Roman Empire had been isolationist ?
Perhaps the Vatican was all there was left of Rome & under that presumption, D.C. can be all that is left of the United States?
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Re: Is the 2012 Election Rigged?

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TC204

The only way this country will get fixed is if an entirely different system is put into place.
Got a point there Brother, but I don't think Obama's socialist state and dictatorial power is the way we need to go and thats what I see coming :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: God help us if shitstain gets re-elected, I'll be "E&Eing with Ted". :wink:

I still say a Repub POTUS with Ron Paul as a trusted cabinet member to run the FED outta business is the way to go. "Ifs and Buts" I know.
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