Obama to seek new Assault Weapons ban

[resqparamedic]

Obama knows he's pushing people towards a rebellion. Gotta disarm the populace before pushing for more socialism.

People said the same type of thing during Clinton's first round as the POTUS. Then he was reelected the second time and there was more of the same talk about us heading down the road to rebellion. It didn't happen and while I am not psychic I seriously doubt it will happen under BO.

No matter how much some of dislike the current policies of the White House, there are many who do. This is just another aspect of the ebb and flow of politics. No POTUS is ever going to please everyone. While some people hailed what Bush did or even Reagan for that matter, there were many liberals who stated that it was time for an uprising by the people. Hell, how many times has Alec Baldwin and others said they were going to leave the country due to conservative government policies. The same is true now.

Unless the POTUS and the government go way off the deep end it will never happen. And going off the deep end consists of doing a lot more than our mostly conservative minds think is needed to initiate such actions. While I don't like it, assault weapons were banned before, then they were unbanned. As before they may be banned again, but then I would fathom to guess there is a good chance of unbanning them after. However, there is always the chance that they will use a more intelligent method and not ban assault weapon, rather they will you increased taxes, stricter regulations, etc..., to make buying them more of a pain in the ass than most people are will to deal with.

No matter what BO says and does, it will take a pretty far leap for him, or anyone to push the US into mass civil unrest. The bottom line is that, even with him in office and all the problems we think we have, the US is still a damned great place to live. Our country has weathered conservative and liberal storms before and I am confidant it will continue to do so.

IMHO, at the most, the current policies will cause conservatives to unite and vote in a candidate of their choosing down the road as happened with Reagan. That will last until that conservatives piss off the liberals enough to have a repeat performance of this past November. It all like the tide, ebb and flow.

[Flesh Thorn]

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pel ... 02-26.html

Hopefully this attitude will continue but I'm not holding my breath

Sen Reid has the attitude

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will join Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in opposing any effort to revive the 1994 assault weapons ban, putting them on the opposite side of the Obama administration.

The news caught Capitol Hill by surprise, immediately pitting Democrats and Republicans against each other and even exposing deep divides among Democrats. A number of House Democrats lost their seats after being targeted by the National Rifle Association for voting for the 1994 ban.

[BadMuther]

Obama knows he's pushing people towards a rebellion. Gotta disarm the populace before pushing for more socialism.

People said the same type of thing during Clinton's first round as the POTUS. Then he was reelected the second time and there was more of the same talk about us heading down the road to rebellion. It didn't happen and while I am not psychic I seriously doubt it will happen under BO.

No matter how much some of dislike the current policies of the White House, there are many who do. This is just another aspect of the ebb and flow of politics. No POTUS is ever going to please everyone. While some people hailed what Bush did or even Reagan for that matter, there were many liberals who stated that it was time for an uprising by the people. Hell, how many times has Alec Baldwin and others said they were going to leave the country due to conservative government policies. The same is true now.

Unless the POTUS and the government go way off the deep end it will never happen. And going off the deep end consists of doing a lot more than our mostly conservative minds think is needed to initiate such actions. While I don't like it, assault weapons were banned before, then they were unbanned. As before they may be banned again, but then I would fathom to guess there is a good chance of unbanning them after. However, there is always the chance that they will use a more intelligent method and not ban assault weapon, rather they will you increased taxes, stricter regulations, etc..., to make buying them more of a pain in the ass than most people are will to deal with.

No matter what BO says and does, it will take a pretty far leap for him, or anyone to push the US into mass civil unrest. The bottom line is that, even with him in office and all the problems we think we have, the US is still a damned great place to live. Our country has weathered conservative and liberal storms before and I am confidant it will continue to do so.

IMHO, at the most, the current policies will cause conservatives to unite and vote in a candidate of their choosing down the road as happened with Reagan. That will last until that conservatives piss off the liberals enough to have a repeat performance of this past November. It all like the tide, ebb and flow.

Everyday I turn on the radio, Obama is passing/asking for yet another stimulus bill or some other piece of socialist legislation.

Obama now wants to limit tax free contributions to non-profits. Pure and simple BULLSHIT!!!

Whether you want to admit it or not, there is a large segment that has just had it with this BS. Clinton was just a precursor.

When you add up the loss of rights with high taxes, there is only so much that people can take.

When talk radio is banned (UNfairness doctrine) and ammo is taxed at some ridiculous amount, along with high taxes, etc you are going to see some HUGE issues. 25 states are already discussing suceeding from the union if certain things take place.

For me, like I said, my line in the sand is my first and second amendment rights. When those go, I'm going.....whether it's to the caribbean, new zealand or elsewhere, I'm out.

Oh, and btw, us on the right aren't all talk blowhards like baldwin. And that's what scares the liberals and why they want to ban guns so much-nothing to do with crime.

[resqparamedic]

Everyday I turn on the radio, Obama is passing/asking for yet another stimulus bill or some other piece of socialist legislation.

Obama now wants to limit tax free contributions to non-profits. Pure and simple BULLSHIT!!!

Whether you want to admit it or not, there is a large segment that has just had it with this BS. Clinton was just a precursor.

When you add up the loss of rights with high taxes, there is only so much that people can take.

When talk radio is banned (UNfairness doctrine) and ammo is taxed at some ridiculous amount, along with high taxes, etc you are going to see some HUGE issues. 25 states are already discussing suceeding from the union if certain things take place.

For me, like I said, my line in the sand is my first and second amendment rights. When those go, I'm going.....whether it's to the caribbean, new zealand or elsewhere, I'm out.

Oh, and btw, us on the right aren't all talk blowhards like baldwin. And that's what scares the liberals and why they want to ban guns so much-nothing to do with crime.

Yeah, you're right BO is trying to pass all kinds of stuff the right doesn't agree with. I certainly think a lot of it’s crap and it chaps my ass. However, are the measures he is attempting to pass enough to initiate open rebellion? I seriously doubt it. Yes, we broke off from England over 200 years ago, but that is comparing apples and oranges.

Taxes increase and the decrease. Gun laws get tightened up and then they get relaxed. The Fairness Doctrine was around before and it’ll be around again. Yes states are speaking about seceding and that is nothing new. If you look into it you may find that there are states that have regularly discussed seceding for quite a number of years. However, maybe I am way off base, but like moving out of the country I seriously doubt many, if any of them will sack-up and do it.

As for moving to another country, by all means if you feel you must, go for it. And I certainly know we aren't all blowhards like Baldwin, but at the same time I really don't think that is scaring the liberals. I don't doubt that you would pop smoke and head overseas. I just hope you stick to your values, sack-up and follow through so that you don’t end up in the same boat as Baldwin.

The fact is that yes, they're going to screw with gun rights, and other things you and I aren't going to like. But as I said, I don't believe there is going to be a huge uprising unless they go way-way off the deep end. However, that is not to say that people like you won't exercise your right to flip the government the bird and move out. When you do pop smoke though keep me posted and let me know how the constitutional rights and gun laws are handled wherever you end up. I'm sure it's easy to find one that you'll be happy with.

[BadMuther]

Everyday I turn on the radio, Obama is passing/asking for yet another stimulus bill or some other piece of socialist legislation.

Obama now wants to limit tax free contributions to non-profits. Pure and simple BULLSHIT!!!

Whether you want to admit it or not, there is a large segment that has just had it with this BS. Clinton was just a precursor.

When you add up the loss of rights with high taxes, there is only so much that people can take.

When talk radio is banned (UNfairness doctrine) and ammo is taxed at some ridiculous amount, along with high taxes, etc you are going to see some HUGE issues. 25 states are already discussing suceeding from the union if certain things take place.

For me, like I said, my line in the sand is my first and second amendment rights. When those go, I'm going.....whether it's to the caribbean, new zealand or elsewhere, I'm out.

Oh, and btw, us on the right aren't all talk blowhards like baldwin. And that's what scares the liberals and why they want to ban guns so much-nothing to do with crime.

Yeah, you're right BO is trying to pass all kinds of stuff the right doesn't agree with. I certainly think a lot of it’s crap and it chaps my ass. However, are the measures he is attempting to pass enough to initiate open rebellion? I seriously doubt it. Yes, we broke off from England over 200 years ago, but that is comparing apples and oranges.

Taxes increase and the decrease. Gun laws get tightened up and then they get relaxed. The Fairness Doctrine was around before and it’ll be around again. Yes states are speaking about seceding and that is nothing new. If you look into it you may find that there are states that have regularly discussed seceding for quite a number of years. However, maybe I am way off base, but like moving out of the country I seriously doubt many, if any of them will sack-up and do it.

As for moving to another country, by all means if you feel you must, go for it. And I certainly know we aren't all blowhards like Baldwin, but at the same time I really don't think that is scaring the liberals. I don't doubt that you would pop smoke and head overseas. I just hope you stick to your values, sack-up and follow through so that you don’t end up in the same boat as Baldwin.

The fact is that yes, they're going to screw with gun rights, and other things you and I aren't going to like. But as I said, I don't believe there is going to be a huge uprising unless they go way-way off the deep end. However, that is not to say that people like you won't exercise your right to flip the government the bird and move out. When you do pop smoke though keep me posted and let me know how the constitutional rights and gun laws are handled wherever you end up. I'm sure it's easy to find one that you'll be happy with.

Well brother, you may be right. I'm just telling you my line in the sand. I didn't want to say too much on an open board. I would stay and stick to my principles before moving out of the country.

I can tell you one thing tho that would guarantee open rebellion. An assault weapons ban with no grandfather clause/confiscation. Good luck with that one.

[resqparamedic]

The bright side to the weapons bans and such, is that bans and laws can always be overturned down the road following another election.

[Jim]

Don't be so sure...

Reid joins Pelosi in opposing ban revival
By J. Taylor Rushing
Posted: 02/26/09 10:17 PM [ET]
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) will join House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in opposing any effort to revive the 1994 assault-weapons ban, putting them on the opposite side of the Obama administration.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said the Nevada Democrat will preserve his traditional pro-gun rights voting record.

"Sen. Reid would oppose an effort [to] reinstate the ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future," Manley told The Hill in an e-mail late Thursday night.

It was not immediately clear whether Reid would block the bill from the Senate, but his opposition casts serious doubt on its chances. Also, Manley noted that Reid voted against the ban in 1994 and again when it expired in 2004.

Reid's stance joins him with Pelosi, who told reporters Thursday that the administration had not checked with her before Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters the administration would attempt to reinstate the ban. Pelosi gave a flat “no” when asked if she had spoken to Holder or any other administration officials about the issue.

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[BadMuther]

I saw that, kinda suprising.

[rgrokelley]

I saw that, kinda suprising.

Not really. Everything these folks do is to increase their power. They could give a fucking rat's ass if they send the United States on a "clown car ride to hell" as long as they can maintain their power. They know that the Congress was flipped over to the Republicans in 1992 due to the gun ban, an attempt at universal health care, and the Congress voting themselves pay raises every year, during midnight sessions.

They are not stupid, just power mad.

[Bcosniper]

The fact is that yes, they're going to screw with gun rights, and other things you and I aren't going to like. But as I said, I don't believe there is going to be a huge uprising unless they go way-way off the deep end.

All its going to take is one real serious crisis. IMO its only a matter of time before the economy implodes. I hope I'm wrong, but as things stand now I don't think I am. The sad part about it is that all the crap Obama is pushing through is only going to make things worse. When enough people are desperate for work and food then you'll see the stuff hit the fan.

[ANGRYCivilian]

I don't think Americans care that much to start an open, armed rebellion, because the conservatives are now on the loosing end. I also think it would be horribly wrong to entice and take part in such an event. I'm a Republican because the majority of my beliefs seem to fall on the right-side of the fence; and I would have liked to see McCain win; but, he didn't. This country continuously bounces from left to right; that's how things are. Some years things are good for us, and some years they are not as good. It's change, and the nature of change is to continually change. Things will eventually start to turn in our favor, and in the favor of our country; it just takes time.

[Flesh Thorn]

Democrats piss me off!