No pre ranger anymore seeking guidance

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Grunt11B
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No pre ranger anymore seeking guidance

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Hello Rangers,

Its been about a year since i have posted on here, my first post was about going to Ranger Battalion, I was told the only way I could go was to drop my stripes and go as an E4 or go get my Ranger Tab. Well I was able to keep my stripes and now im set to be going to Ranger School, only condition is the PA has to bless off on it, as my unit is going to deploy and im staying back with dwell so i could go to Ranger School. One major problem is Fort Lewis has gone away with the Pre Ranger Course, my 1SG said he can try to get me on some land nav places in the training area but no guarantees. Basically i dont want to show up with out being 100% in every category. I was advised the only way I can go is based on 1 other contingent that I can not be recycled. As in doing so I will miss my time to fly to the sand box.

Any advice Rangers would be great. I am doing hardcore PT everyday, Army PT in the mornings 0630-0800 then I do Crossfit/P90X for 1 hour plus every night. My last 2 mile was 1145 pushups were 63 and situps were 60. Granted i know my weak spots on these events and have been un fucking myself in said events. I recently ran a 10k in 53min.

Thank you Rangers
Very Respectfully
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So you're a good runner...and that's about it if you've been in the Army for this long and still only do 63 and 60 on the other events.

Work on your upper body and core strength. Get used to having a ruck on your shoulder. A weekly road march should be a no brainer if you are fixing to carry a small house on your back. Don't go out and do 30 milers for practice, just keep it to no more than 12 once a week.

As far as PRC is concerned - it did nothing for me except add more suck to an already big enough suckfest. You have zero and RAP week to get your basic skills straight and then you're off to Darby.
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Ranger Nomad,

I have not always been good at running, i used to get 75 and 80's + in my pushups and situps, and I used to dog in my run, but in preparation for my promotion board in Afghanistan. I 6'5 and 255lbs, we do road marches at least 2 times a week. With 45-65lbs in full battle rattle. I have always been good at road marches. I was doing the SFAS PT Prep for a couple months to get my feet even tougher. I will although undoubtably take your advice. I have also done alot of OPORDS and Patrols while on my ETT in Afghanistan. Any other advice?

Thank you Ranger Nomad
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As long as you're in good shape physically, you should be good to go. You will get plenty of classes and practical application exercises before being evaluated. Don't mind fuck yourself about not being able to go to pre Ranger. Good Luck and Never Quit!!!
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Grunt11B wrote:Ranger Nomad,

I have not always been good at running, i used to get 75 and 80's + in my pushups and situps, and I used to dog in my run, but in preparation for my promotion board in Afghanistan. I 6'5 and 255lbs, we do road marches at least 2 times a week. With 45-65lbs in full battle rattle. I have always been good at road marches. I was doing the SFAS PT Prep for a couple months to get my feet even tougher. I will although undoubtably take your advice. I have also done alot of OPORDS and Patrols while on my ETT in Afghanistan. Any other advice?

Thank you Ranger Nomad
Very Respectfully
Big Murph
Murph,

Don't road march that much. You'll create too much pressure on your joints and it is completely counter-productive to train with anything over 45lbs.

Like I said, once a week is plenty. Don't overdo it. Also realize that you will not be wearing body armor in RS. However, your ruck will end up weighing quite a bit before you're all done with the course. By then you'll be tired enough and conditioned to easily carry more than 70lbs on your back.

But the one thing you should work on is your PT. A well rounded program is needed for you. Might want to check into the PT section of this board.

To reiterate what others have said before, one of them an RI:

PRC is not going to do a lot for you if you've been in for a while. If you listen, execute as per their SOP's and follow your team internal SOP's, do not spotlight and carry your weight, you will be fine.
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Alright rangers thanks for the advice, i will be dropping in to post results ie body fat loss and strength gains threw the next couple months. Today i should find out if the PA is going to be a DICK and not let me go to Ranger School. Hopefully everything works out right, If it does work out right i should be in school by August Sept time frame.

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Find an Orienteering club if you want to work on your terrain association skills. They have competitions which are basically land nav races. Good wilderness time but the scale of their maps may mess you up for Ranger School.

Good luck to you!
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Contact Rangers Kilted Heathan or RRDTm3, they're the experts on PRC.
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JLTW!!! wrote:
. wrote:Isnt a PRC of some sort required before attending Ranger school?
I thought so, but I've been of AD a while now.

I agree with Guru/Nomad on it not helping you if you've been in for awhile, but on the same token, it can't hurt to get a little refresher/extra training in beforehand.
It sure as shit helped you.
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You can stop by anytime. I'm not hard to find.
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